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Friday, 9 March 2018

BREXIT The Campaign to stay in the EU is far from over....

BREXIT, The Campaign to stay in the EU and ignore result is far from over...

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MPs are in a massive row about BREXIT.

[1] They're split on the issue of a 'customs union' with the EU. 

That’s an agreement that’d make it easier for us to trade with EU countries, but make it harder for us to strike independent trade deals with other parts of the world after we BREXIT. [2] It sounds like jargon, but it could affect our everyday lives, from jobs to the cost of our weekly shop. [3]


What our MPs decide in the next few weeks could change the future of BREXIT. But right now, the decision hangs in the balance. That means MPs' constituents - people like you and me! - have a lot of power.

Together, it’s up to us to decide if 38 Degrees should get involved in this debate. We could choose to pick a side. Or we could choose to be neutral and focus on other campaigns.

Please will you fill out this short survey to help decide what 38 Degrees should do about the customs union? We'll only campaign on this if 75% or more of us agree it's the right thing for 38 Degrees.


Here's the first question to get you started, and some facts to help you decide:

Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?


Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU


Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU


No - stay out of the issue entirely


I'm not sure



If we were in a customs union:*
[4]

• UK companies that trade with the EU would be able to do business with Europe more easily - because they wouldn't be subject to customs checks or have any extra fees to pay.

Companies from countries in the EU wouldn't have to pay extra fees to sell products in the UK either. That means the price of European products we buy in the shops should be similar to what we pay now.

But we wouldn't get to arrange our own trade deals with non-EU countries, unless we negotiate with the EU to do so.

The UK might need to meet new conditions to be part of a customs union without being an EU member, but won’t have formal voting power in the EU.



If we weren't in a customs union:* [5]

The UK could negotiate its own trade deals with other non-EU countries independently.

The UK would have more control over how we trade with the rest of the world, decided by our government.

It could be more difficult for UK companies to do business in Europe, because they would have extra work to comply with EU regulations, and might have to pay extra fees to sell products in countries part of the EU.

Products coming from European countries into the UK could cost more, because they could have extra fees attached to them for coming into the UK. *This is based on us entering and leaving a customs union that is the same as the one we are currently in. (Thanks to Full Fact, the independent fact-checking charity, for their input on this list.) [6]

Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?

Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU


Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU


No - stay out of the issue entirely


I'm not sure


38 Degrees members - that's people like you who sign petitions and email MPs - decided together to stay neutral on the EU referendum. But this is a fresh decision, because being part of a customs union is a different choice - about the kind of BREXIT we want.

38 Degrees is made up of different people, with different backgrounds, from all over the UK. We didn't all vote the same way in the EU referendum. Some of us voted Leave, and some of us voted Remain.

Since the results were announced, we've been working together to make sure BREXIT is as people-powered as possible. And it's working: last year, hundreds of thousands of us forced Theresa May to back down on plans to give herself the power to rewrite UK laws behind closed doors after BREXIT. [7] It's proof that when we come together, we can shape BREXIT.

Thanks for being involved,

Jess, Maggie, Ellie, Becca and the rest of the 38 Degrees team


So there you go. The people of this country voted more on feelings than facts and most of the facts we were provided were incorrect, unknown at the time or made up.

You can vote in the BREXIT poll at the top of the page about whether you would change your mind if there was another referendum held today.

The EU Commissioners want to punish us for leaving to persuade other countries from leaving as well so they are not going to make any bargaining over economic deals easy for Theresa, Boris and Davis in the slightest. However the EU must realise we are one of their biggest trading partners and they need us to buy their German cars and retire in Spain as we did before we even joined this thing called the 'European Union'/

I think if we can help Syria fight off the Axis of Wars (CIA/MI6/Mossad etc) trained jihadists, ISIL, FSA, al-Nusra. Who are all trying to other-throw President Assad whilst Turkey buys oil from ISIL, jails any journalists talking about it and shoots down Russian planes that have proved the daily snake like trails of oil laden trucks going from ISIL held positions into Turkey, then that would be a great start.

If we just stayed out of Syria and Iraq and let the countries invited by Syria, to do the fighting e.g Russia, Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah from Lebanon and Kurdish militias. Countries and groups that Syria invited into Syria to help their struggle which was going really well with Russian air support  coordinated with Syrian troops on the ground that did more to defeat the rebels in a few months than it had for Western Nations who had taken years, trying to find 'safe, softer, more cuddly' Jihadists that could be used to attack President Assad as we fought ISIL.

The problem was that these groups like the Free Syrian Army were just as bad as ISIL, selling captured journalists to IS so they could be decapitated for propaganda in Gitmo dress, and films of their leaders cutting open dead Syrian soldiers bodies and eating their hearts and innards then putting the video on YouTube.com, that the Americans has to admit in Congressional hearings that they only had a few dozen DOD trained soldiers trained and ready to be used.

The problem was that the Axis of War was training the real rebels and and at one stage it was discovered that the DOD was actually fighting the CIA in Syria.

America v the USA, that is some sort of clusterfuck that goes to show what happens when Colonial countries like France and the UK draw arbitrary lines in the sand to create countries and put dictators that they can control to run them fall apart all the old grievances and issues that were there before Iraq was just drawn in the sand when really it should have been 3 separate countries, the Shi'ites in the south near their brethren in Iran, Sunnis in the middle and a Kurdish state in the north.

It is this Kurdistan that the reckless NATO Turks have only just joined the no fly zone coalition so they could bomb Kurdish positions that help their fellow Kurds in Turkey. They have been oppressed by both Iraq and Turkey for decades and it would show we were 'helping' to redraw lines of nations that should have been made sensibly after WWI.

If we just allowed the nations invited to Syria to help defeat ISIL, which was nearly complete until, the US deep state ramped up their jihadist combat troops, fooling their MSM watching fools with false stories of news on Sarin gassing, which has only ever been proved to have been carried out by the rebels with help from Turkey.

Then we would not only save a lot of money, soldiers lives and injuries as well as show we can sit down with Russia, Syria, Iran and Turkey to solve the problem, but we could also halt the millions of refugees coming into the EU, because they believe it is some sort of shining city on a hill when the reality is it is a crumbling, broke and joke of a situation

Their would be less 'political correctness gone mad stories' about refugees raping German and Danish girls, French and Belgium people shooting up churches, nightclubs and bars in the name of ISIS and less trucks and cars being driven into people in London.

We should also have kept better track on the people leaving EU countries to visit Syria or Turkey and coming back to spread their 7th century gospel of hate. The Mosques they visited should have been investigated a lot more and by staying out of the American Empires take over off the world the EU would not be seen to be supporting a clash of civilizations as well getting on better with Russia who is being surrounded by NATO bases, something they promised not to do if the Berlin Wall fell.

Do you really want a nuclear war with Russia over Hillary Clinton losing her Presidential race to a game show host? 

Despite headlines of crazy proportions in the USA, Russia has helped us sort out Syria by removing their chemical weapons, hammered out a deal with Iran that would see them not make strong enough Uranium to produce a nuclear weapon and provide the US deep state with a "pee pee' tape so that if they ever wanted to get rid of him fast it would help.

A few Troll farms not connected to the Russian state had nothing to do with the US 2016 election, although the Democrats would like you to think it did and they are carrying on this stupid charade to over up Hillary's embarrassing loss to a non politician, who has been duplicitous, changed all his campaign rhetoric so his supporters have been screwed over by tax and health bills whilst the rich have got even richer.

We are the ones antagonizing Russia. We supported an illegal coup of Ukraine along with America that put neo-Nazis into power. The CIA has probably assassinated more Presidents and Prime Ministers than any other country and if we wanted to deescalate with Russia we should look at it from their side.

Remember Russia has been attacked 3 times in the last couple of hundred years from the west through the Ukraine. It's why the Ukrainians saw the Nazi arrival as liberation from Soviet Control and the mistrust and hatred between many on the east who have both Russian and Ukrainian passports and the neo-nazis on the west is huge. Remember Russia lost more civilians and soldiers during the second World War than nearly all other countries combined and the biggest tank battle of the 2nd world war took place in the Ukraine, the battle of the Kursk.

About 1/3rd of all Germany’s military strength was concentrated in the area and they had grouped 900,000 soldiers in the region, 10,000 artillery guns, 2,700 tanks and 2,000 aircraft. The Russians had 1.3 million soldiers, 20,000 artillery pieces, 3,600 tanks and 2,400 planes. It was many times bugger than any battle fought on the western front and if you include all the civilians and soldier lost in that war (40 million+), plus the invasions of Germany in WWI and earlier by Napoleon you can see why the Soviets at the end of the USSR dominance of Eastern Europe wanted a 'Buffer' zone between themselves and NATO.

A promise which was quickly broken and it is no surprise Putin is being belligerent about hypocritical matters the US calls Russia such as their 14 troll farms that placed a few Facebook adverts which is all over the news and is supposed to have stopped Hillary Clinton from winning.

  • This is despite her lack of campaigning.
  • Her ill health, visible to all.
  • Her empty rallies when compared to her Democratic primary candidate Bernie Sanders who we found out that the DNC (who control the party) were pushing him and his popular policies away into a drone of 'No Trump' slogans and no attempt to act Democratic.
  • She is both a neo-liberal and neo-con. She would probably already be at war with Russia by now if elected and the grand conspiracy went both ways except she used an ex British spy as a middle man to gain info on Trump from Ukrainian and Russian sources;
  • She lied to Congress, failed to allow the FBI to inspect her computers after 'shouting fire' that the Russians had hacked the DNC.
  • True computer experts have proved the amount of data taken from these personal servers was so much that only a manual USB plugged into a computer could have had the speed necessary to transfer all the Podesta and DNC Emails that were leaked to WikiLeaks and a remote hack would not have worked. This makes the botched robbery of DNC staff worker Seth Rich in which nothing was robbed but he was shot even more puzzling. The Clinton's are part of the deep state and you cannot embarrass them in anyway shape or form.
  • Then to lose to the worst game show GOP candidate, who can hardly put a coherent sentence together must be so embarrassing. No wonder she has all the left wing and establishment newspapers and news shows try and distract the people with stories of RUSSIAGATE on the mainstream news.
  • The change in Google's algorithm who are publicly admitting to working with the NSA and CIA to introduce AI drones to kill more people. Yes Terminator is becoming a reality. This change has meant blogs like www.darkpolitricks.com and many others lose money as CNN and FOX News are considered authoritative sources whilst alternative media isn't.


Therefore we can leave the EU and drift off towards the Americans more and more looking Stazi, high tech Surveillance state where they are planning to build AI drones to kill Americans in far away countries at any hour of the day, whether someone is at the controls or not. Skynet is coming to the US it seems as they kick out all the migrants that founded the country.

Or we can let the Tories negotiate with the EU hardball players and probably force us to have another referendum or if they want to be sneeky and break all their promises then they will have a vote in parliament over the final agreement.

We may even see the return of Nigel Farage on the political landscape if the referendum result is not kept to. 

It's not all doom and gloom. We already have many commonwealth countries and others knocking on our door wanting trade agreements with us, such as Australia and Canada. We could thrive or we could drown in the sea of choppy political waters.

Tell me and 38 degrees what you think.


Sources:

[1] Bloomberg: Pro-EU Tory Rebellion Grows Further as May Ever More Boxed In:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/uk-tory-rebellion-on-customs-union-grows-to-ten-lawmakers

The Sun: BLOCKED BID: Downing Street rejects the Treasury’s proposal to end Cabinet row, temporarily keep UK in EU Customs Union after BREXIT:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5509404/downing-street-rejects-the-treasurys-proposal-to-end-cabinet-row-temporarily-keep-uk-in-eu-customs-union-after-brexit/

Evening Standard: Tory rebels tell May: We’ll halt Britain’s exit from a customs union:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-rebels-tell-may-we-ll-halt-britain-s-exit-from-a-customs-union-a3774131.html

[2] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

The Daily Mail: Business group calls for a Turkey-style 'partial' customs union covering only industry and processed food:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5399071/Business-lobby-group-calls-partial-customs-union.html

[3] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

[4] UK in a Changing Europe: What would retaining membership of the EU customs union mean for the UK?:

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/what-would-retaining-membership-of-the-eu-customs-union-mean-for-the-uk/

CBI: Customs Union:

http://www.cbi.org.uk/index.cfm/_api/render/file/?method=inline&fileID=D7C5FEA1-29FF-4302-85FA61236F02FF98

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[5] Institute for Government: Implementing BREXIT: Customs:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/IfG_BREXIT_customs_WEB_0.pdf

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[6] Full Fact is an independent and non-partisan fact-checking charity. They're an organisation who use primary sources and consult experts to check claims made by politicians, the media and pressure groups. You can find out more about Full Fact and the work they do on their website:

https://fullfact.org/

[7] 38 Degrees blog: Delegated powers: We won!

https://home.38degrees.org.uk/2017/12/13/delegated-powers-won/


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Monday, 1 January 2018

Ta-Nehisi Coates v Cornell West - Just how Obama is not the new Malcolm X

Ta-Nehisi Coates v Cornell West - Just how Obama is not the new Malcolm X

By Dark Politricks
Secular Talk

Ta-Nehisi Coates is the neoliberal face of the black freedom struggle, says Cornell West, progressive black elder of the liberal movement.

He doesn't see Obama as any kind of shinning light for the black community, whereas Ta-Nehisi Coates says of him with genuine euphoria:
“As I watched Barack Obama’s star shoot across the political sky ... I had never seen so many white people cheer on a black man who was neither an athlete nor an entertainer. And it seemed that they loved him for this, and I thought in those days ... that they might love me too.”
He also compares him to the last black hero since Malcolm X, where he seems to have missed a few things that President Obama did whilst in office out of his admiration list. Things such as:
  • Increasing the wars the USA was in from 3 to 7 and who knows how many "off book" banana republics the CIA are trying to turn over at the moment.
  • Drone strikes increased allowing PS2 and Xbox generation kids, experts at shooting from the sky to play real life or death scenarios. Sat in a box in Las Vegas they control drones across the world and take out buildings and people who may or may not have any connection with whatever extremest force the Mossad/CIA have created to ensure that the DOD sends troops over to fight there.
  • The implementation of the NDAA which gives the POTUS god like powers and lets him kill even US citizens abroad or at home if he feels they are a threat to the country.
  • The increased surveillance state where scanners at airports show off genitalia to brain-dead FDA staff, or you may be lucky to get a pat down and an accidental finger slipped somewhere. Not nice for the kids to watch for sure. Are there are any studies out that have shown how many terrorist plots these scanners that can easily be bypassed have stopped?
  • The crack down on whistle-blowers and truth to power speakers. He may have let Chelsea Manning out of jail as his pardon present for leaving, but he was the one who put him there in the first place. The war crimes and torture committed by US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and other places is a very long list. Videos put up on YouTube of burning Korans and soldiers pissing on dead bodies of people they had just killed, is not the kind of "freedom" that the rest of the world wants. The latest attempt is the Democratic Red Scare and the nonsensical call to label Dr Jill Stein a Russian Agent and ask her to appear before a committee at Congress. It will surely blow up in their faces when she uses cool clean logic to blast them out of the water with real policies that were not heard by the majority during the last election, and hopefully leaving a committee room full of red faces.
  • Allowing the CIA and NSA to do pretty much what they want, whilst selling arms to the most despotic regime on the face of the earth, Saudi Arabia. If one country needs to be taken out of the Middle East it's the Saudi's who are using their alliance with Israel and the USA to increase their battle with Iranian forces. Forces who have helped removed ISIS militants from Syria along with Kurds and Christians.
  • The let off of Wall St after their collapsing of the World Economy in 2008. He should have jailed at least some Banksters like Iceland did. Now out of office and collecting $500,000 payments for after dinner speeches, it looks to a lot of people that he is being paid back from the den of inequity he didn't prosecute or crack down on after they gambled people's wages and pensions away on the stock market.
  • The non prosecution of George W Bush and Dick Cheney for war crimes including a preemptive war on Iraq (outlawed by US judges as the worst crime a country could commit against another after WWII at Nuremberg)the torture of enemy soldiers at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib many who were just people picked up by the Northern Alliance and sold to US troops who had nothing to say, nothing to admit and no part played in any anti-US battles. Remember the Taliban are mostly the name we have given the people who already lived in the area we attacked illegally. The Afghani's asked for evidence of bin-Laden's guilt twice and were denied it, as well as offering to hand him over for a fair trial also denied by US HQ. Just imagine if the Chinese invaded the USA. They would be calling all those 2nd amendment tin can shooters a similar name.
  • There are many many more incidences which I could mention but we could go on all night.
Watch Kyle break it down.



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Saturday, 8 April 2017

Donald Trump stitched up by Democrats, neo-cons and US trained ISIS

Donald Trump stitched up by False Flag Chemical Attack


By Dark Politricks
Dark Politricks

A false flag attack that is so obvious and fulfils Neo-Con wishes For Trump to move away from Russia

It seems the Democrats, Obama and neo-con WWIII dreamers want their war in Syria.

Once we built weapons to fight wars now we make wars to sell weapons e.g Saudi Arabia and Yemen which no-one seems to be talking about. Saudi Arabia is one of the most terrorist supporting, backward country in the world.

We should not be allies with them. If t hose 28/29 redacted 9.11 pages are right we should have bombed the country out of existence by now.

However after Donald Trump said he would not be attacking Assad but going after ISIS and al-Qaeda who the CIA and their cohorts are training and funding.

The town which was supposedly hit by chemical weapons are Axis of War (US/UK/France) jihadists who only recently kidnapped people from the town that was attacked.

It seems very odd that people dying of Sarin are being treated (see pictures in video) by people without the proper protective equipment on. Why is the lead gas campaigner a doctor in a hospital who has time to tweet out messages and offer video chats, surely he should be helping out in his FULL hospital of victims instead of tweeting.

Also this comes as Syria is beating ISIS and the rest of the US trained ISIS, al-Qaeda and al-Nusra? They are taking back whole towns that had been captured OH and they gave their chemical weapons away in 2013 after the last "red line" was supposedly crossed.

This was proved to be a false flag in 2013 as the Turkish found Sarin gas in Turkey and being crossed into Syria. MP'S and journalists who brought up Turkish support for ISIS were arrested and even jailed.

Also who does it benefit?

When there are peace talks on the schedule it seems a very stupid and unnecessary time for the Syrian army to use chemical weapons.

I bet the Democrats and GOP neo-cons who suckle the teats of the Military Industrial Complex are happy they seem to have turned Trump from fighting ISIS to putting US troops on the ground to fight Assad and maybe even Russia.

This is obviously going to lead to Russian soldiers being killed and RT.com have many articles and film about how this attack seems to be a false flag.

Watch this report by Jimmy Dore. He puts the pieces together nicely.

Half the US government wants another war to make money from weapons sales and rebuilding contracts and to keep the sheeple terrified for much longer. Syria has been on the US hit list since 9.11 and was supposed to be toppled after Iraq and Iran.

This has been proved 100%.

The only problem is that the US don't seem to be going after ISIS or al-Qaeda, rather they would support them through proxies in Saudi Arabia and Qatar to pass off weapons, training and money.

Also for Donald Trump to stand there and say many red lines have been crossed why is it when we bomb a hospital and kill kids and women it's "collateral damage", but if Syria who is basically doing our work for us by going after ISIS who we created, and al-Qaeda who supposedly attacked us it's an outrage.

Are ISIS and al-Qaeda not supposed to be our enemies?

It seems that when they see a new US President prepared to go after this bag of scum instead of allowing Assad and Russia, who have done a much better job in a tiny amount of time clearing out the Jihadist scum, we have to keep the war going.

How? Troops on the ground, bombing Syrian soldiers, allowing ISIS troops to be supplied and trained and most importantly allowing another NATO country, Turkey to illegally buy stolen oil from ISIS taken from Syria. This snake of trucks carrying oil filmed by Russian planes tells a sad story about NATO.

We allow or foment a false flag gas attack to happen or provide our own terrorists the geo coordinates to bomb before Russia smashes them all to bits as happened the other week and also happened in the Iran Iraq war when Saddam Hussein was given the location of Iranian troops by the US when they knew he would use chemical weapons on them.

Our morals seem to be a bit up and down it seems depending on whether we control the country or their key politicians. Otherwise a coup is formed, a fake protest is inflated into a mass anti government action or people are assassinated.

Does it matter if you are killed by chemical weapons, whose destination was probably provided to their Jihadist trained troops or blown up and burnt to death?

Does the way we kill someone matter on a score board. What about Israel and Saudi Arabia using white phosphorus on the trapped people of Gaza even a UN building or Saudis bombing and murdering of kids in Yemen because there are groups loosely aligned with Iran there.

The place is a hell hole search the site for more info on this disgusting war.

Watch this great alternative news piece to get all the info you need to stop you believing mainstream media lies about the attack.




I suggest subscribing to Jimmy Dores's channel ASAP.

If Russian soldiers are attacked and killed and we end up in World War 3 can you trust Donald Trump NOT to use nuclear weapons in any conflict.

Do you really trust him to do the right thing. Is this all just a way to sway Trumps potential detente with Russia into one of aggression where a proxy war could turn hot.

Have the Democrats who would have gone into Syria by now and the neo-con GOP politicians, hate the fact Trump is not as evil as some of them. Wanting constant war and increased spending on weapons and paying off their lobbyists. Have they been jumping for joy the last day or so?

I don't want that do you? And if so please tell me why.

Read the original article at Dark Politricks.

By Dark Politricks

© 2017 Dark Politricks

Tuesday, 24 May 2016

Nigel Farage - Could Turkey Be The Reason You Vote To Leave the EU

Nigel Farage - Could Turkey Be The Reason You Vote To Leave the EU

Nigel Farage is the famous Euro MEP, and leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party. Here he gives one reason that gained applauce around the Parliament.

What is that reason?

Turkey.

We are being blackmailed by this country that is mostly Asian anyway into taking people back but with no guarantees that prevent people crossing the Syrian border again and into Eruope.

With Angela Merkel's "Hand Up", lets take as many Syrian migrants as we can policy that has reduced Germany into a place where western women are afraid to wear short skirts in case they are attacked by refugees such as the police in Cologne who received more than 1,000 complaints from women, including 454 reports of sexual assaults, related to New Year's Eve, 2016.

In fact sexual violence in Germany has skyrocketed since Angela Merkel allowed more than one million mostly male migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East into the country. The crimes are being downplayed by the authorities, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments

Police in Hamburg received complaints from 351 women, including 218 reports of sexual assault that took place on the same evening.

It seems the poilice have a policy of just letting these assaults slide as every Gernman Cop knows he has to meet a particular political expectation. It is better to keep quiet [about migrant crime] because you cannot go wrong." — Rainer Wendt, head of the German police union. 

So let's listen to UKIP leader, Nigel Farge one of a few MEP Tuerkey's voting for Christmas and the loss of their jobs, perks, and huge pension and allowances.

Here he disccusses how Turkey has us over a barrel. They are no real ally of us and Saudi Arabia and Turkey are more alligned with ISIL, the al-Nusra Front (al-Qaeda branch in Syria) and other terrorists who they have been funding by buying huge anounts of oil from stolen Syrian plants.

These are oil transactions that have been proven by the Russians to take stolen oil from Syria to Turkey. It was why they got so upset and shot down a Russian plane almost starting WWIII because the Russians were destroying the huge snake like delivery of oil trucks that make their way from Syria though supposed checkpoints on the Turkish border and into the hands of the Turkish deep state.

So if ecomoics is not your main reasion for leaving or the lack of democracy due to our laws being made overseas then maybe it might be the fact that once Tukey joins the EU and it's 74 million people, then it will only take a real Syrian Refugee a few years to get a passport before being able to move to the UK legally, or they might just purchase some of the many thousands on sale in the black market.