BREXIT The Campaign to stay in the EU is far from over....

BREXIT, The Campaign to stay in the EU and ignore result is far from over...

MPs are in a massive row about BREXIT.

[1] They're split on the issue of a 'customs union' with the EU. 

That’s an agreement that’d make it easier for us to trade with EU countries, but make it harder for us to strike independent trade deals with other parts of the world after we BREXIT. [2] It sounds like jargon, but it could affect our everyday lives, from jobs to the cost of our weekly shop. [3]


What our MPs decide in the next few weeks could change the future of BREXIT. But right now, the decision hangs in the balance. That means MPs' constituents - people like you and me! - have a lot of power.

Together, it’s up to us to decide if 38 Degrees should get involved in this debate. We could choose to pick a side. Or we could choose to be neutral and focus on other campaigns.

Please will you fill out this short survey to help decide what 38 Degrees should do about the customs union? We'll only campaign on this if 75% or more of us agree it's the right thing for 38 Degrees.


Here's the first question to get you started, and some facts to help you decide:
Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?

Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU

Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU

No - stay out of the issue entirely

I'm not sure

If we were in a customs union:*

[4]

• UK companies that trade with the EU would be able to do business with Europe more easily - because they wouldn't be subject to customs checks or have any extra fees to pay.

• Companies from countries in the EU wouldn't have to pay extra fees to sell products in the UK either. That means the price of European products we buy in the shops should be similar to what we pay now.

• But we wouldn't get to arrange our own trade deals with non-EU countries, unless we negotiate with the EU to do so.

• The UK might need to meet new conditions to be part of a customs union without being an EU member, but won’t have formal voting power in the EU.



If we weren't in a customs union:* [5]

• The UK could negotiate its own trade deals with other non-EU countries independently.

• The UK would have more control over how we trade with the rest of the world, decided by our government.

• It could be more difficult for UK companies to do business in Europe, because they would have extra work to comply with EU regulations, and might have to pay extra fees to sell products in countries part of the EU.

• Products coming from European countries into the UK could cost more, because they could have extra fees attached to them for coming into the UK. *This is based on us entering and leaving a customs union that is the same as the one we are currently in. (Thanks to Full Fact, the independent fact-checking charity, for their input on this list.) [6]

Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?
Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU

Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU

No - stay out of the issue entirely

I'm not sure

38 Degrees members - that's people like you who sign petitions and email MPs - decided together to stay neutral on the EU referendum. But this is a fresh decision, because being part of a customs union is a different choice - about the kind of BREXIT we want.

38 Degrees is made up of different people, with different backgrounds, from all over the UK. We didn't all vote the same way in the EU referendum. Some of us voted Leave, and some of us voted Remain.

Since the results were announced, we've been working together to make sure BREXIT is as people-powered as possible. And it's working: last year, hundreds of thousands of us forced Theresa May to back down on plans to give herself the power to rewrite UK laws behind closed doors after BREXIT. [7] It's proof that when we come together, we can shape BREXIT.

Thanks for being involved,

Jess, Maggie, Ellie, Becca and the rest of the 38 Degrees team


So there you go. The people of this country voted more on feelings than facts and most of the facts we were provided were incorrect, unknown at the time or made up.

You can vote in the BREXIT poll at the top of the page about whether you would change your mind if there was another referendum held today.

The EU Commissioners want to punish us for leaving to persuade other countries from leaving as well so they are not going to make any bargaining over economic deals easy for Theresa, Boris and Davis in the slightest. However the EU must realise we are one of their biggest trading partners and they need us to buy their German cars and retire in Spain as we did before we even joined this thing called the 'European Union'/

I think if we can help Syria fight off the Axis of Wars (CIA/MI6/Mossad etc) trained jihadists, ISIL, FSA, al-Nusra. Who are all trying to other-throw President Assad whilst Turkey buys oil from ISIL, jails any journalists talking about it and shoots down Russian planes that have proved the daily snake like trails of oil laden trucks going from ISIL held positions into Turkey, then that would be a great start.

If we just stayed out of Syria and Iraq and let the countries invited by Syria, to do the fighting e.g Russia, Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah from Lebanon and Kurdish militias. Countries and groups that Syria invited into Syria to help their struggle which was going really well with Russian air support  coordinated with Syrian troops on the ground that did more to defeat the rebels in a few months than it had for Western Nations who had taken years, trying to find 'safe, softer, more cuddly' Jihadists that could be used to attack President Assad as we fought ISIL.

The problem was that these groups like the Free Syrian Army were just as bad as ISIL, selling captured journalists to IS so they could be decapitated for propaganda in Gitmo dress, and films of their leaders cutting open dead Syrian soldiers bodies and eating their hearts and innards then putting the video on YouTube.com, that the Americans has to admit in Congressional hearings that they only had a few dozen DOD trained soldiers trained and ready to be used.

The problem was that the Axis of War was training the real rebels and and at one stage it was discovered that the DOD was actually fighting the CIA in Syria.

America v the USA, that is some sort of clusterfuck that goes to show what happens when Colonial countries like France and the UK draw arbitrary lines in the sand to create countries and put dictators that they can control to run them fall apart all the old grievances and issues that were there before Iraq was just drawn in the sand when really it should have been 3 separate countries, the Shi'ites in the south near their brethren in Iran, Sunnis in the middle and a Kurdish state in the north.

It is this Kurdistan that the reckless NATO Turks have only just joined the no fly zone coalition so they could bomb Kurdish positions that help their fellow Kurds in Turkey. They have been oppressed by both Iraq and Turkey for decades and it would show we were 'helping' to redraw lines of nations that should have been made sensibly after WWI.

If we just allowed the nations invited to Syria to help defeat ISIL, which was nearly complete until, the US deep state ramped up their jihadist combat troops, fooling their MSM watching fools with false stories of news on Sarin gassing, which has only ever been proved to have been carried out by the rebels with help from Turkey.

Then we would not only save a lot of money, soldiers lives and injuries as well as show we can sit down with Russia, Syria, Iran and Turkey to solve the problem, but we could also halt the millions of refugees coming into the EU, because they believe it is some sort of shining city on a hill when the reality is it is a crumbling, broke and joke of a situation

Their would be less 'political correctness gone mad stories' about refugees raping German and Danish girls, French and Belgium people shooting up churches, nightclubs and bars in the name of ISIS and less trucks and cars being driven into people in London.

We should also have kept better track on the people leaving EU countries to visit Syria or Turkey and coming back to spread their 7th century gospel of hate. The Mosques they visited should have been investigated a lot more and by staying out of the American Empires take over off the world the EU would not be seen to be supporting a clash of civilizations as well getting on better with Russia who is being surrounded by NATO bases, something they promised not to do if the Berlin Wall fell.

Do you really want a nuclear war with Russia over Hillary Clinton losing her Presidential race to a game show host? 

Despite headlines of crazy proportions in the USA, Russia has helped us sort out Syria by removing their chemical weapons, hammered out a deal with Iran that would see them not make strong enough Uranium to produce a nuclear weapon and provide the US deep state with a "pee pee' tape so that if they ever wanted to get rid of him fast it would help.

A few Troll farms not connected to the Russian state had nothing to do with the US 2016 election, although the Democrats would like you to think it did and they are carrying on this stupid charade to over up Hillary's embarrassing loss to a non politician, who has been duplicitous, changed all his campaign rhetoric so his supporters have been screwed over by tax and health bills whilst the rich have got even richer.

We are the ones antagonizing Russia. We supported an illegal coup of Ukraine along with America that put neo-Nazis into power. The CIA has probably assassinated more Presidents and Prime Ministers than any other country and if we wanted to deescalate with Russia we should look at it from their side.

Remember Russia has been attacked 3 times in the last couple of hundred years from the west through the Ukraine. It's why the Ukrainians saw the Nazi arrival as liberation from Soviet Control and the mistrust and hatred between many on the east who have both Russian and Ukrainian passports and the neo-nazis on the west is huge. Remember Russia lost more civilians and soldiers during the second World War than nearly all other countries combined and the biggest tank battle of the 2nd world war took place in the Ukraine, the battle of the Kursk.

About 1/3rd of all Germany’s military strength was concentrated in the area and they had grouped 900,000 soldiers in the region, 10,000 artillery guns, 2,700 tanks and 2,000 aircraft. The Russians had 1.3 million soldiers, 20,000 artillery pieces, 3,600 tanks and 2,400 planes. It was many times bugger than any battle fought on the western front and if you include all the civilians and soldier lost in that war (40 million+), plus the invasions of Germany in WWI and earlier by Napoleon you can see why the Soviets at the end of the USSR dominance of Eastern Europe wanted a 'Buffer' zone between themselves and NATO.

A promise which was quickly broken and it is no surprise Putin is being belligerent about hypocritical matters the US calls Russia such as their 14 troll farms that placed a few Facebook adverts which is all over the news and is supposed to have stopped Hillary Clinton from winning.

• This is despite her lack of campaigning.
• Her ill health, visible to all.
• Her empty rallies when compared to her Democratic primary candidate Bernie Sanders who we found out that the DNC (who control the party) were pushing him and his popular policies away into a drone of 'No Trump' slogans and no attempt to act Democratic.
• She is both a neo-liberal and neo-con. She would probably already be at war with Russia by now if elected and the grand conspiracy went both ways except she used an ex British spy as a middle man to gain info on Trump from Ukrainian and Russian sources;
• She lied to Congress, failed to allow the FBI to inspect her computers after 'shouting fire' that the Russians had hacked the DNC.
• True computer experts have proved the amount of data taken from these personal servers was so much that only a manual USB plugged into a computer could have had the speed necessary to transfer all the Podesta and DNC Emails that were leaked to WikiLeaks and a remote hack would not have worked. This makes the botched robbery of DNC staff worker Seth Rich in which nothing was robbed but he was shot even more puzzling. The Clinton's are part of the deep state and you cannot embarrass them in anyway shape or form.
• Then to lose to the worst game show GOP candidate, who can hardly put a coherent sentence together must be so embarrassing. No wonder she has all the left wing and establishment newspapers and news shows try and distract the people with stories of RUSSIAGATE on the mainstream news.
• The change in Google's algorithm who are publicly admitting to working with the NSA and CIA to introduce AI drones to kill more people. Yes Terminator is becoming a reality. This change has meant blogs like www.darkpolitricks.com and many others lose money as CNN and FOX News are considered authoritative sources whilst alternative media isn't.

Therefore we can leave the EU and drift off towards the Americans more and more looking Stazi, high tech Surveillance state where they are planning to build AI drones to kill Americans in far away countries at any hour of the day, whether someone is at the controls or not. Skynet is coming to the US it seems as they kick out all the migrants that founded the country.

Or we can let the Tories negotiate with the EU hardball players and probably force us to have another referendum or if they want to be sneeky and break all their promises then they will have a vote in parliament over the final agreement.

We may even see the return of Nigel Farage on the political landscape if the referendum result is not kept to. 

It's not all doom and gloom. We already have many commonwealth countries and others knocking on our door wanting trade agreements with us, such as Australia and Canada. We could thrive or we could drown in the sea of choppy political waters.

Tell me and 38 degrees what you think.

Sources:

[1] Bloomberg: Pro-EU Tory Rebellion Grows Further as May Ever More Boxed In:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/uk-tory-rebellion-on-customs-union-grows-to-ten-lawmakers

The Sun: BLOCKED BID: Downing Street rejects the Treasury’s proposal to end Cabinet row, temporarily keep UK in EU Customs Union after BREXIT:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5509404/downing-street-rejects-the-treasurys-proposal-to-end-cabinet-row-temporarily-keep-uk-in-eu-customs-union-after-brexit/

Evening Standard: Tory rebels tell May: We’ll halt Britain’s exit from a customs union:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-rebels-tell-may-we-ll-halt-britain-s-exit-from-a-customs-union-a3774131.html

[2] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

The Daily Mail: Business group calls for a Turkey-style 'partial' customs union covering only industry and processed food:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5399071/Business-lobby-group-calls-partial-customs-union.html

[3] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

[4] UK in a Changing Europe: What would retaining membership of the EU customs union mean for the UK?:

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/what-would-retaining-membership-of-the-eu-customs-union-mean-for-the-uk/

CBI: Customs Union:

http://www.cbi.org.uk/index.cfm/_api/render/file/?method=inline&fileID=D7C5FEA1-29FF-4302-85FA61236F02FF98

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[5] Institute for Government: Implementing BREXIT: Customs:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/IfG_BREXIT_customs_WEB_0.pdf

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[6] Full Fact is an independent and non-partisan fact-checking charity. They're an organisation who use primary sources and consult experts to check claims made by politicians, the media and pressure groups. You can find out more about Full Fact and the work they do on their website:

https://fullfact.org/

[7] 38 Degrees blog: Delegated powers: We won!

https://home.38degrees.org.uk/2017/12/13/delegated-powers-won/

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BREXIT - MPS to get a vote

BREXIT - MPS to get a vote

38 Degrees

This is from 38 degrees who wanted to stay in the EU despite the country voting to leave.

From 38 Degrees

It’s official. Our MPs are getting a vote on BREXIT. Their decision will define our country for generations to come. It’ll change the lives of all of us living here.

Every day, MPs argue about what kind of BREXIT would be best for British people. But so far, we - the actual people - have been completely left out of the discussion.

This is our chance to change that, and it starts today. There are millions of us across the length and breadth of this country. If we work together, we can mount a massive campaign to make sure that before our MPs vote, they listen - really listen - to what we want from BREXIT.

With each step of BREXIT, we can make sure MPs are feeling the heat from us. We can drown out the lobbyists, the big business interests, the political insiders - and make sure parliament hears our demand for a BREXIT that works for the many, not the few.

But we’ll be taking on giants. It’ll be a long, hard slog. And it won’t come cheap.

Years from now, our history books will have a chapter dedicated to 2017 and BREXIT.

Nigel Farage knows it. The tabloids know it. The MPs campaigning to ignore the result of the referendum know it. Big business lobbyists know it too. That’s why they’re all working night and day to push their different BREXIT agendas. They’d much rather people like you and me kept quiet.

Days like today are no time to sit back and see what happens. If you chip in today, here’s how we can work together to make sure our voices are heard during the BREXIT negotiations

We can train and organise thousands of 38 Degrees members to meet our MPs and take our crowd sourced plan for BREXIT straight into the heart of government.

We can hire a crack team of analysts and investigators to run through the government’s plans for BREXIT with a fine-tooth comb - and expose the plans that put us or the issues we care about at risk.

We can scale up the 38 Degrees staff team dedicated to BREXIT, to make sure our people-powered plan is all over the media, in parliament and everywhere Theresa May turns.

We can pay for billboards, leaflets, Facebook ads and events in parliament to make sure MPs can’t miss our demands about what we want from BREXIT.

Today, we have a choice: sit back and watch the BREXIT deal happen without us. Or stand up for what we believe in, and do what we can to get the best deal possible. Robert - will you do your bit and chip in?

Chip in as much as you can afford to help the cause > https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/can-you-chip-in


On our own, BREXIT can feel too big to take on. But that’s the magic of 38 Degrees. When we take action together, we’re more than a match for any politician.

Just look what we did when we were faced with TTIP, the biggest corporate takeover attempt in our lifetime. Thousands upon thousands of us joined together and we brought that dangerous deal to its knees.

We need to harness that same energy and passion now to get the BREXIT deal we need and deserve.

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Nigel Farage's Top Speeches

Nigel Farage Resigns as head of UKIP

By Dark Politricks

As we say goodbye to Nigel Farage from the political scene I thought I would collate an article of his most famous speeches in the EU Parliament.

Nigel Farage is the man who started the UK Independence Movement to leave the EU, he helped convince the country that we should vote for BREXIT, and has now chosen to resign from UKIP saying that the job is now done.

He went to Brussels and got paid handsomely as an MEP but at least he told everyone about it, unlike the other tax payer milking ex politicos. He let on about the massive expenses, the special passports that gave him the right to jump queues at airports and the daily allowances just for turning up at work.

He wanted us to make him redundant, he actually begged us to make him jobless, and unlike many in the EU parliament he had actually held down a real job before becoming a politician.

So whatever you think of him, and whilst he never sat in the Houses of Commons, you cannot deny that he's managed to change the whole political scene in the UK and Europe, mostly as a one man band for a lot of the time.

You can listen to his resignation speech below where he attacks the undemocratic centralised control of the EU and the mass joblessness of the youth across southern Europe due to the Euro.

He also talks about the rush of Commonwealth countries like Australia and New Zealand who have already contacted us already about forming one to one trade deals.



I agree with Nigel that I am worried about our BREXIT.

We cannot have politics as normal and we cannot have a REMAIN campaigner as our PM doing the deal with Europe for us.

We should be busy doing our one to one deals with other countries now, and quickly, so that businesses and employees can see we are getting on with things and help settle the markets that went totally mental after the vote but seem to be getting back to normal now.

We need to ignore all the mass protests by Remain voters who are sore losers.

We need to ignore all the Internet polls saying that London should become a city-state and all the lawyers who are demanding the UK Government ignore the referendum result.

These people can use all the legal technicalities they want but morally the vote has been won and we should get on with things and make the best of them like we always do in the UK.

UKIP maybe to the right of the UK political spectrum and many people might think it's just full of old people who hate foreigners.

However what they don't realise is that many UKIP supporters are poorer and younger workers who have suffered due to wage suppression and globalisation.

This is why I cannot believe Labour have chosen this time to attack Jeremy Corbyn for not doing enough to get Labour voters to vote remain.

How can he be blamed for the evils of globalisation that have caused the poor to suffer. It's the rich Blairites and Politicos that just don't understand why people on the left could possibly vote to leave the EU.

Globalisation hasn't done everyone favours.

It may have raised wages in poorer countries but it has lowered them in richer countries. We are now all fighting to prevent the international corporations forcing us to all work to Chinese sweatshop levels and the lowest common level.

By allowing companies within the UK to hire cheap Eastern European labour and undercut UK workers the politicians only have themselves to blame.

Labour under Blair and Brown opened the doors to our current multicultural society, a policy they have now apologised for, and they have to accept responsibility for all the unemployment caused by it.

Thousands of UK people put out of work due to their jobs being taken by people willing to work longer hours and for much less pay than them.

Why we can't have some sensible laws such as enforcing companies to offer ALL jobs to UK born citizens at least 5 times, including the long-term unemployed before even thinking of hiring an overseas worker I have no idea.

It wouldn't be hard to implement but it would cut a hole in these rich global elites pockets and who gives a toss - I don't.

That is why so many Labour voters chose to vote to leave and that is why Labour should be looking at Tony Blair and Gordon Brown for blame and NOT Jeremy Corbyn for the mass Labour vote to leave the undemocratic EU.

However as we are saying goodbye to one of the most colourful characters of the UK and European political stage I thought I would collate some of Nigel's finest outbursts and speeches for you.

Nigel's Most Famous Speech - "Who are you?"

Starting with a personal famous favourite here. Nigel Farage welcoming the newly unelected EU President Herman van Rompuy to the EU Parliament.

"You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" were the famous words that made the UKIP leader a household name around the globe.

One year later - "Who the Hell Do You Think You Are?"

One year after that speech he attacks him again for being the poster boy for Euroscepticism due to the failure of the Euro and the crisis in the EU.

The EU Parliament President attacked by Farage

Here is another EU President being attacked by Nigel Farage in the EU parliament. He sure doesn't make any friends in the room with his speeches.

Nigel Farage Savages Angela Merkel

Here is Nigel savaging the German leader and David Cameron about how she is leading the EU to a more centralised federal system and how the UK can do nothing about it due to the country not being inside the Euro.

"Who do you think you are kidding Mr Juncker"

Here is Nigel attacking the EU for their desire to create an EU army and apparently wanting to fight Russia over Ukraine.

Nigel's speech that won the BREXIT vote

This is a speech that Nigel made in June about Turkey blackmailing the EU as well as being an ally of ISIS, using their NATO membership to bomb their Kurdish enemies in Syria instead.

He talks about the flooding of Europe with weapons, allowing millions of poor undocumented migrants to become documented, and the failure of the EU to solve the refugee crisis.

The EU ask him in response whether he supported these wars that caused all the refugees and he replies defiantly that NO he would have voted against them all if he was in the UK parliament.

Nigels attacks Gordon Brown on hypocrisy

Here Nigel takes on the ex Labour PM, Gordon Brown, who went back on his pledge to give the UK a vote on the Lisbon treaty (EU Constitution), after the Irish voted against it in their first referendum.

He also attacks him for selling 400 metric tons of Gold at a massively devalued price and his poor management of the UK economy.

Nigel takes on Tony Blair the war criminal

Here Farage attacks Tony Blair for his failure to secure the UK rebate and his failure to reform the EU on their common agricultural policy.

Goodbye EU, I won!

"When I came here 17 years ago and I said I wanted to lead a campaign to leave the EU you all laughed at me, well you're not laughing now are you...."

This is Nigel Farage's victory speech in the days after the BREXIT vote, in which the Vote Leave side won. He had finally achieved his dream ambition of leading the UK out of the EU.



So what do you think of UKIP leader Nigel Farage and his successful, almost one man campaign to leave the EU that snowballed into winning EU elections, hundreds of seats on local councils and even 2 MPs?

Will he go down in history as one of England’s most successful politicians or will his name be blotted out of history due to the remain side's bitterness at us leaving the EU against their will?

Let me know what you think and remember to take the new poll at the top of the page on whether we should have voted to leave or stay in the EU. Do YOU have buyers remorse?

View the original article at www.darkpolitricks.com

By Dark Politricks

 

© 2016 Dark Politricks

Gordon Brown pushes for a United States of Europe

Gordon Brown pushes for a United States of Europe

Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan attack Gordon Brown as he calls for a United states of Europe in the European parliament whilst Prime Minister.

Not only did Gordon Brown sell a load of UK Gold at rock bottom prices, destroyed our private pension system and claimed "no more boom and bust" as Chancellor and then watched as the biggest bust in decades happened as Prime Minister.

He bailed out the banks and due to running up a huge national debt when times were good it meant that when the recession hit us we were one of the worst prepared countries to face it.


What do you think about Gordon Brown breaking his pledge to give the UK people a vote on the Lisbon treaty which pushes for a more united Europe and political union?

Have you decided how you will vote yet?

Nigel Farage v David Cameron - ITV Debate

Nigel Farage v David Cameron - ITV Debate

This is the debate from a couple of days ago on ITV between David Cameron and Nigel Farage.

Although described a debate it wasn't really as the two people were never on stage at the same time together.

Instead it was a politician v audience (with moderator - not that she did much) - format.

First Nigel Farage went on first to face questions from the Remain campaign and their supporters about the threats of leaving the EU to the economy, trade, NHS and security.

Then David Cameron went on to face questions from the Leave side and their supporters about the benefits of leaving. Questions on how he would deal with mass immigration that would see the UK have 80 million people living here by 2040, the lack of democracy in the EU and why he had changed his mind from speeches he had made before the EU referendum.

You can watch the full debate here.

Part 1 - Nigel Farage

Part 2 - David Cameron

Would it have been better if the two politicians were on stage together debating each other or do you think the format of one at a time v the audidence worked well?

Would you like to see more of these kinds of debates (if you can call it that), and if so, who would you like to see in them?

Don't forget to vote at the top of the page!

Nigel Farage on Immigration post BREXIT

Nigel Farage on Immigration post BREXIT

Nigel Farage, Euro MP and head of UKIP, gives a speech about UK immigration policy in a post BREXIT world.

Is immigration the major factor for your vote or is it economics, workers rights or security?

With a city the size of Liverpool being required to house the 300,000 new migrants that enter the country each year, and our government woefully slack at any kind of major house building, it seems that if we want affordable housing we have to hope George Osborne is right when he says that house prices will fall if we leave the EU.


Do you find UKIPs arguments persuasive or do you think migration is unimportant when it comes to the EU referendum?

Nigel Farage - Could Turkey Be The Reason You Vote To Leave the EU

Nigel Farage - Could Turkey Be The Reason You Vote To Leave the EU

Nigel Farage is the famous Euro MEP, and leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party. Here he gives one reason that gained applauce around the Parliament.

What is that reason?

Turkey.

We are being blackmailed by this country that is mostly Asian anyway into taking people back but with no guarantees that prevent people crossing the Syrian border again and into Eruope.

With Angela Merkel's "Hand Up", lets take as many Syrian migrants as we can policy that has reduced Germany into a place where western women are afraid to wear short skirts in case they are attacked by refugees such as the police in Cologne who received more than 1,000 complaints from women, including 454 reports of sexual assaults, related to New Year's Eve, 2016.

In fact sexual violence in Germany has skyrocketed since Angela Merkel allowed more than one million mostly male migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East into the country. The crimes are being downplayed by the authorities, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments

Police in Hamburg received complaints from 351 women, including 218 reports of sexual assault that took place on the same evening.

It seems the poilice have a policy of just letting these assaults slide as every Gernman Cop knows he has to meet a particular political expectation. It is better to keep quiet [about migrant crime] because you cannot go wrong." — Rainer Wendt, head of the German police union. 

So let's listen to UKIP leader, Nigel Farge one of a few MEP Tuerkey's voting for Christmas and the loss of their jobs, perks, and huge pension and allowances.

Here he disccusses how Turkey has us over a barrel. They are no real ally of us and Saudi Arabia and Turkey are more alligned with ISIL, the al-Nusra Front (al-Qaeda branch in Syria) and other terrorists who they have been funding by buying huge anounts of oil from stolen Syrian plants.

These are oil transactions that have been proven by the Russians to take stolen oil from Syria to Turkey. It was why they got so upset and shot down a Russian plane almost starting WWIII because the Russians were destroying the huge snake like delivery of oil trucks that make their way from Syria though supposed checkpoints on the Turkish border and into the hands of the Turkish deep state.

So if ecomoics is not your main reasion for leaving or the lack of democracy due to our laws being made overseas then maybe it might be the fact that once Tukey joins the EU and it's 74 million people, then it will only take a real Syrian Refugee a few years to get a passport before being able to move to the UK legally, or they might just purchase some of the many thousands on sale in the black market.

 

EU referendum debate between Anna Soubry and Nigel Farage

EU referendum debate between Anna Soubry and Nigel Farage

This is Channel 4 debate between Tory Anna Soubry and UKIP leader Nigel Farage over David Cameron's recent speech about staying in the EU.

They have now given us a referendum and now David Cameron seems a bit scared that we might make the "wrong" decision.

Does this mean wrong for the British public or wrong as in bad for big business, wrong for Tory cronies, wrong for the USA and wrong for the push for TTIP and the overrule of our own laws by US corporations.

John Snow brings up an important point that the "deal" David Cameron brought back from the EU was really a washout and not worth the paper it was written on. Nigel Farage says its not legally enforceable and could be stripped down by the EU court of justice.

The point is - is that true? How do we know, one side says yes, the others say no.

How can the public decide?

All we can do is keep listening to the debates I put on this site and make up your own mind.


What do you think of David Cameron's deal from the EU?

Is it deliverable and enforceable or will it be stripped down by the EU court of justice?

Make you sure you vote at the top of the page whether you want to stay or leave the EU.

Nigel Farage calls David Cameron a "Conman"

Nigel Farage calls David Cameron a "Conman"

In a blistering attack on the PM the UKIP leader stuck the boot in as he urged voters to make a stand against Brussels. 

He may have had a few too many beers though!

Days after Mr Cameron continued his Project Fear by suggesting BREXIT could spark World War Three, Mr Farage ramped up the Leave campaign by mocking the PM.

He said: “My message is Dave you’re a conman, you’re a conman."

“You told us two months ago you might consider voting for BREXIT, now you tell us it could cause World War Three.

“If it’s that serious why would you ever take the risk in the first place.

“He is a cheap second-hand car salesman not to be believed and will finish up at the end of this utterly discredited and rightly so.”

The UKIP leader also took aim at Brussels bureaucrats and tore into EU regulations.

He said: “Do you think we should govern our own country, make our own laws, control our own borders and have our own Supreme Court or do you think it better we sub-contract out the running of our nation to a bunch of old men in Brussels we can’t vote for and we can’t remove?

"I know my answer. I want my country back, I want my borders back, I want my passport back, I want my pride and self-respect back.

“Don’t forget there are 5.2 million men and women in this country who run their own companies, act as sole traders, unpaid tax collectors for the Government.

What do you think is our PM a conman over his referendum over BREXIT.

His magic agreement with the EU was supposed to stop us voting to leave but it is so watered down and not worth the paper it is written on no-one believes him anymore.

And here is Nigel Farage on why Big Business love BREXIT....



So how are you going to vote?

Have you voted at the top of the page yet?

Let us know your thoughts.

Nigel Farage attacks Lame Duck President for sticking his nose into the BREXIT debate

Nigel Farage attacks Lame Duck President for sticking his nose into the BREXIT debate

This is Nigel Farage on Sky News attacking President Obama for sticking his nose into the BREXIT debate. 

He thinks the terminology used by President Obama e.g "back of the queue", signifies that he was parroting a UK line and that the idea that it would take 10 years to make a UK trade deal if we leave is just preposterous.

He also goes into the TTIP deal and why Obama is so keen on the UK staying in the EU and joining the TTIP deal which will allow giant US corporations to buy up the NHS and other UK public services.


What I want to know is why can't the Tory leader, David Cameron, debate leading BREXIT campaigners?

If he doesn't want Blue on Blue attacks, there are enough UKIP, Independents and Labour people to debate instead.

Why isn't David Cameron debating the BREXIT campaign. Surely his agreement that he managed to agree with EU leaders was supposed to prevent us from wanting to vote leave.

Therefore why haven't we heard hardly anything about it since he came back from the EU?

Should Britain Leave The EU - Debate

Should Britain Leave The EU - Debate

This is the Spectator debate on whether or not Britain should leave the EU.

The debate is chaired by Andrew Neil and the panellists are split into two groups.

People persuading us for a BREXIT:

• Dan Hannan
• Nigel Farage
• Kate Hoey

And the Better Together group who want us to remain in the EU:

• Nick Clegg
• Liz Kendall
• Chuka Umunna

The question I want to know is where is David Cameron?

Surely as the Prime Minister of the UK and the person who has set up the referendum as well as the person who thought his "new deal" with the EU would prevent us from leaving. Surely he should be centre stage making the argument for us to stay and telling us how his "deal" will change our minds?

What do you think of the debate. Has it changed your point of view on whether to vote to leave the EU or to stay in?

Remember to vote at the top of the page!

Andrew Marr Interviews on BREXIT Campaigners

Andrew Marr Interviews on BREXIT Campaigners

This is a collection of Andrew Marr interviews with politicians and leaders of the Better In Together and BREXIT campaigns over the decision to vote to stay or leave the EU. 

David Cameron

I start off with the Prime Minister who obviously wants us to stay in Europe. He claims that there would be turmoil and uncertainty if we left the EU and that his "deal" with Europe has satisfied most people who were worried about economic migrants just looking for benefits.

Nigel Farage

UKIP Leader Nigel Farage gives Andrew Marr his reasons for leaving the EU. These include David Cameron's weak "deal", that merely limits benefits and has some elements within it that can be struck down by the European court without our say so.

The issue is NOT migrant benefits and NET migration running at 330,000 people a year when we were promised that this would be reduced to tens of thousands a year. I

Instead it is the fact we would be able to see who were making our laws, vote them out if we didn't like them and run our own lives and spend our own money without meddling from Brussel.s

Also giving back our sovereignty, he wants an Australian style points system that doesn't discriminate on locality so that we can give people from the Commonwealth higher priority if they have the skills over unskilled migrants that have waited in Europe enough time to get an EU passport so that they can enter the UK.

Boris Johnson

The London Mayor, Boris Johnson, believes that we can keep our free trade deals with the EU without the ever evolving movement towards a centralised federal state without us paying for it. It will also allow us to make our own trade deals with countries like China and India where the problems of the EU and Euro would not even on the table. Huge debt, deficit, bailouts and Greek islands having to be sold off to pay back German banks would not be an issue as they currently are during EU trade discussions

We are a big enough country to do our own deals, Iceland can, so why can't we. Our relationship with the EU and US would remain friendly and cordial, based on trade and shared security concerns. However we would not have laws enforced on us from Brussels and we would be able to do free trade deals looking after the interest of British industries with other countries and not hand this important matter over to EU bureaucrats.

What do you think about these interviews. 

Who do you find the most convincing over the BREXIT debate?

Nigel Farage debating Nick Clegg at the Oxford Union over leaving the EU

Nigel Farage debating Nick Clegg at the Oxford Union over leaving the EU

This is part of a debate that took place at the Oxford Union over whether Britain should leave the EU.

There were many more participants than the two videos I have shown here but these are two of the more well known voices from either side of the BREXIT debate.

Watch Nigel Farage leader of UKIP discuss his reasons why the UK should leave the EU at the Oxford Union.



Watch Nick Clegg lay out his reasons in the same debate why Britain is better together with the EU.



Both Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage have worked at the EU either as MEP's.

They will take huge pensions when they retire long before us and whilst working at the EU they would have had big expense accounts to fund their job, hire help and so on.

This is one reason many people dislike the EU because of the amount of money wasted on MEP's and their allowances. Also its payments have been consistently found subject to significant error for the past 18 years.

Which argument did you find more convincing, Nick Cleggs or Nigel Farages?

Does the threat of Scotland and maybe Wales leaving the UK if we pull out of the EU make you want to vote for staying in the EU or do you think they have the right to independence anyway?

Will you vote with objectivity or use logic and facts when making your decision. This will affect you and your children for decades to come so I hope it's the latter!

Right Wing BREXIT Views

Right Wing BREXIT Views

If you viewed the earlier piece about left wing points of view on BREXIT then you may want to hear some right wing views.

The two most often heard voices are from UKIP leader Nigel Farage and the Tory MEP Daniel Hannan.

Here we listen to their views on leaving the EU. Here is Daniel Hannan discussing why we should leave the EU, debating Sky TV presenter Lucy Thomas about the free movement of people, Goldman Sachs and the City of London.

 

Here is Nigel Farage giving one of his famous speeches in the EU parliament which often makes the other MEP's bang their heads into their tables.

He discusses the migrants coming into the UK and the possibility of ISIS infiltrators due to their getting EU passports after staying in an EU country for enough time to then gain entry to the UK.

 

And for fun here is a collection of clips of the two of them together on BBC's Question Time taking on the stay campaigners.



Here is Tory politician, and anti big brother campaigner, David Davis talking about why he is for leaving the EU.



So some politicians from the right wing and their views on why they want to leave the EU.

David Cameron may have got US President, Barack Obama, to state that the UK should vote to stay in the EU, which has really got the backs up from a lot of people.

He wouldn't allow the UK to interfere with US politics so why should we allow him to do so with ours?

Do big names stating that we should stay or leave the EU convince you to vote one way or another or do foreign politicians sticking their noses in make you want to do the opposite just to spite them?

Left Wing BREXIT Views

Left Wing BREXIT Views

Don't let anyone tell you only right wing UKIP or Tories want to leave the EU.

Here is a collection of left wing politicians who want the UK to leave the European Union.

For example the great Labour figure of old, Tony Benn, discusses at the Oxford Union why we should leave the EU.

 

Here is the always unafraid to speak his mind, left winger, George Galloway detailing his opinion on why we should embrace BREXIT.

He was actually sharing a stage with UKIP leader Nigel Farage and when he came on many right wing supporters left the building in disgust!

 

Surely BREXIT should not be a left or right wing point of view but a logical decision made on facts.

It shouldn't matter if the only thing Nigel Farage and George Galloway agree on is leaving the EU.

Surely if you believe we are better off out of the system then it shouldn't matter who is making the argument.

Just to finish off the left wing BREXIT campaigners, despite the half hearted speech by Jeremy Corbyn the other week about the need to stay in the EU, he has always been in the part of Labour that disagrees with the EU project.

Here is a speech he made about leaving the EU.



So don't think the idea of leaving the EU is just a right wing view it crosses the divide between political parties, race, creed and religion.

People of all sorts want to leave and also to stay.

Are you a left leaning BREXIT voter or do you want to stay in the EU?