BREXIT The Campaign to stay in the EU is far from over....

BREXIT, The Campaign to stay in the EU and ignore result is far from over...

MPs are in a massive row about BREXIT.

[1] They're split on the issue of a 'customs union' with the EU. 

That’s an agreement that’d make it easier for us to trade with EU countries, but make it harder for us to strike independent trade deals with other parts of the world after we BREXIT. [2] It sounds like jargon, but it could affect our everyday lives, from jobs to the cost of our weekly shop. [3]


What our MPs decide in the next few weeks could change the future of BREXIT. But right now, the decision hangs in the balance. That means MPs' constituents - people like you and me! - have a lot of power.

Together, it’s up to us to decide if 38 Degrees should get involved in this debate. We could choose to pick a side. Or we could choose to be neutral and focus on other campaigns.

Please will you fill out this short survey to help decide what 38 Degrees should do about the customs union? We'll only campaign on this if 75% or more of us agree it's the right thing for 38 Degrees.


Here's the first question to get you started, and some facts to help you decide:
Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?

Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU

Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU

No - stay out of the issue entirely

I'm not sure

If we were in a customs union:*

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• UK companies that trade with the EU would be able to do business with Europe more easily - because they wouldn't be subject to customs checks or have any extra fees to pay.

• Companies from countries in the EU wouldn't have to pay extra fees to sell products in the UK either. That means the price of European products we buy in the shops should be similar to what we pay now.

• But we wouldn't get to arrange our own trade deals with non-EU countries, unless we negotiate with the EU to do so.

• The UK might need to meet new conditions to be part of a customs union without being an EU member, but won’t have formal voting power in the EU.



If we weren't in a customs union:* [5]

• The UK could negotiate its own trade deals with other non-EU countries independently.

• The UK would have more control over how we trade with the rest of the world, decided by our government.

• It could be more difficult for UK companies to do business in Europe, because they would have extra work to comply with EU regulations, and might have to pay extra fees to sell products in countries part of the EU.

• Products coming from European countries into the UK could cost more, because they could have extra fees attached to them for coming into the UK. *This is based on us entering and leaving a customs union that is the same as the one we are currently in. (Thanks to Full Fact, the independent fact-checking charity, for their input on this list.) [6]

Should 38 Degrees campaign on the issue of a customs union with the EU?
Yes - campaign for a customs union with the EU

Yes - campaign against a customs union with the EU

No - stay out of the issue entirely

I'm not sure

38 Degrees members - that's people like you who sign petitions and email MPs - decided together to stay neutral on the EU referendum. But this is a fresh decision, because being part of a customs union is a different choice - about the kind of BREXIT we want.

38 Degrees is made up of different people, with different backgrounds, from all over the UK. We didn't all vote the same way in the EU referendum. Some of us voted Leave, and some of us voted Remain.

Since the results were announced, we've been working together to make sure BREXIT is as people-powered as possible. And it's working: last year, hundreds of thousands of us forced Theresa May to back down on plans to give herself the power to rewrite UK laws behind closed doors after BREXIT. [7] It's proof that when we come together, we can shape BREXIT.

Thanks for being involved,

Jess, Maggie, Ellie, Becca and the rest of the 38 Degrees team


So there you go. The people of this country voted more on feelings than facts and most of the facts we were provided were incorrect, unknown at the time or made up.

You can vote in the BREXIT poll at the top of the page about whether you would change your mind if there was another referendum held today.

The EU Commissioners want to punish us for leaving to persuade other countries from leaving as well so they are not going to make any bargaining over economic deals easy for Theresa, Boris and Davis in the slightest. However the EU must realise we are one of their biggest trading partners and they need us to buy their German cars and retire in Spain as we did before we even joined this thing called the 'European Union'/

I think if we can help Syria fight off the Axis of Wars (CIA/MI6/Mossad etc) trained jihadists, ISIL, FSA, al-Nusra. Who are all trying to other-throw President Assad whilst Turkey buys oil from ISIL, jails any journalists talking about it and shoots down Russian planes that have proved the daily snake like trails of oil laden trucks going from ISIL held positions into Turkey, then that would be a great start.

If we just stayed out of Syria and Iraq and let the countries invited by Syria, to do the fighting e.g Russia, Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah from Lebanon and Kurdish militias. Countries and groups that Syria invited into Syria to help their struggle which was going really well with Russian air support  coordinated with Syrian troops on the ground that did more to defeat the rebels in a few months than it had for Western Nations who had taken years, trying to find 'safe, softer, more cuddly' Jihadists that could be used to attack President Assad as we fought ISIL.

The problem was that these groups like the Free Syrian Army were just as bad as ISIL, selling captured journalists to IS so they could be decapitated for propaganda in Gitmo dress, and films of their leaders cutting open dead Syrian soldiers bodies and eating their hearts and innards then putting the video on YouTube.com, that the Americans has to admit in Congressional hearings that they only had a few dozen DOD trained soldiers trained and ready to be used.

The problem was that the Axis of War was training the real rebels and and at one stage it was discovered that the DOD was actually fighting the CIA in Syria.

America v the USA, that is some sort of clusterfuck that goes to show what happens when Colonial countries like France and the UK draw arbitrary lines in the sand to create countries and put dictators that they can control to run them fall apart all the old grievances and issues that were there before Iraq was just drawn in the sand when really it should have been 3 separate countries, the Shi'ites in the south near their brethren in Iran, Sunnis in the middle and a Kurdish state in the north.

It is this Kurdistan that the reckless NATO Turks have only just joined the no fly zone coalition so they could bomb Kurdish positions that help their fellow Kurds in Turkey. They have been oppressed by both Iraq and Turkey for decades and it would show we were 'helping' to redraw lines of nations that should have been made sensibly after WWI.

If we just allowed the nations invited to Syria to help defeat ISIL, which was nearly complete until, the US deep state ramped up their jihadist combat troops, fooling their MSM watching fools with false stories of news on Sarin gassing, which has only ever been proved to have been carried out by the rebels with help from Turkey.

Then we would not only save a lot of money, soldiers lives and injuries as well as show we can sit down with Russia, Syria, Iran and Turkey to solve the problem, but we could also halt the millions of refugees coming into the EU, because they believe it is some sort of shining city on a hill when the reality is it is a crumbling, broke and joke of a situation

Their would be less 'political correctness gone mad stories' about refugees raping German and Danish girls, French and Belgium people shooting up churches, nightclubs and bars in the name of ISIS and less trucks and cars being driven into people in London.

We should also have kept better track on the people leaving EU countries to visit Syria or Turkey and coming back to spread their 7th century gospel of hate. The Mosques they visited should have been investigated a lot more and by staying out of the American Empires take over off the world the EU would not be seen to be supporting a clash of civilizations as well getting on better with Russia who is being surrounded by NATO bases, something they promised not to do if the Berlin Wall fell.

Do you really want a nuclear war with Russia over Hillary Clinton losing her Presidential race to a game show host? 

Despite headlines of crazy proportions in the USA, Russia has helped us sort out Syria by removing their chemical weapons, hammered out a deal with Iran that would see them not make strong enough Uranium to produce a nuclear weapon and provide the US deep state with a "pee pee' tape so that if they ever wanted to get rid of him fast it would help.

A few Troll farms not connected to the Russian state had nothing to do with the US 2016 election, although the Democrats would like you to think it did and they are carrying on this stupid charade to over up Hillary's embarrassing loss to a non politician, who has been duplicitous, changed all his campaign rhetoric so his supporters have been screwed over by tax and health bills whilst the rich have got even richer.

We are the ones antagonizing Russia. We supported an illegal coup of Ukraine along with America that put neo-Nazis into power. The CIA has probably assassinated more Presidents and Prime Ministers than any other country and if we wanted to deescalate with Russia we should look at it from their side.

Remember Russia has been attacked 3 times in the last couple of hundred years from the west through the Ukraine. It's why the Ukrainians saw the Nazi arrival as liberation from Soviet Control and the mistrust and hatred between many on the east who have both Russian and Ukrainian passports and the neo-nazis on the west is huge. Remember Russia lost more civilians and soldiers during the second World War than nearly all other countries combined and the biggest tank battle of the 2nd world war took place in the Ukraine, the battle of the Kursk.

About 1/3rd of all Germany’s military strength was concentrated in the area and they had grouped 900,000 soldiers in the region, 10,000 artillery guns, 2,700 tanks and 2,000 aircraft. The Russians had 1.3 million soldiers, 20,000 artillery pieces, 3,600 tanks and 2,400 planes. It was many times bugger than any battle fought on the western front and if you include all the civilians and soldier lost in that war (40 million+), plus the invasions of Germany in WWI and earlier by Napoleon you can see why the Soviets at the end of the USSR dominance of Eastern Europe wanted a 'Buffer' zone between themselves and NATO.

A promise which was quickly broken and it is no surprise Putin is being belligerent about hypocritical matters the US calls Russia such as their 14 troll farms that placed a few Facebook adverts which is all over the news and is supposed to have stopped Hillary Clinton from winning.

• This is despite her lack of campaigning.
• Her ill health, visible to all.
• Her empty rallies when compared to her Democratic primary candidate Bernie Sanders who we found out that the DNC (who control the party) were pushing him and his popular policies away into a drone of 'No Trump' slogans and no attempt to act Democratic.
• She is both a neo-liberal and neo-con. She would probably already be at war with Russia by now if elected and the grand conspiracy went both ways except she used an ex British spy as a middle man to gain info on Trump from Ukrainian and Russian sources;
• She lied to Congress, failed to allow the FBI to inspect her computers after 'shouting fire' that the Russians had hacked the DNC.
• True computer experts have proved the amount of data taken from these personal servers was so much that only a manual USB plugged into a computer could have had the speed necessary to transfer all the Podesta and DNC Emails that were leaked to WikiLeaks and a remote hack would not have worked. This makes the botched robbery of DNC staff worker Seth Rich in which nothing was robbed but he was shot even more puzzling. The Clinton's are part of the deep state and you cannot embarrass them in anyway shape or form.
• Then to lose to the worst game show GOP candidate, who can hardly put a coherent sentence together must be so embarrassing. No wonder she has all the left wing and establishment newspapers and news shows try and distract the people with stories of RUSSIAGATE on the mainstream news.
• The change in Google's algorithm who are publicly admitting to working with the NSA and CIA to introduce AI drones to kill more people. Yes Terminator is becoming a reality. This change has meant blogs like www.darkpolitricks.com and many others lose money as CNN and FOX News are considered authoritative sources whilst alternative media isn't.

Therefore we can leave the EU and drift off towards the Americans more and more looking Stazi, high tech Surveillance state where they are planning to build AI drones to kill Americans in far away countries at any hour of the day, whether someone is at the controls or not. Skynet is coming to the US it seems as they kick out all the migrants that founded the country.

Or we can let the Tories negotiate with the EU hardball players and probably force us to have another referendum or if they want to be sneeky and break all their promises then they will have a vote in parliament over the final agreement.

We may even see the return of Nigel Farage on the political landscape if the referendum result is not kept to. 

It's not all doom and gloom. We already have many commonwealth countries and others knocking on our door wanting trade agreements with us, such as Australia and Canada. We could thrive or we could drown in the sea of choppy political waters.

Tell me and 38 degrees what you think.

Sources:

[1] Bloomberg: Pro-EU Tory Rebellion Grows Further as May Ever More Boxed In:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-28/uk-tory-rebellion-on-customs-union-grows-to-ten-lawmakers

The Sun: BLOCKED BID: Downing Street rejects the Treasury’s proposal to end Cabinet row, temporarily keep UK in EU Customs Union after BREXIT:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5509404/downing-street-rejects-the-treasurys-proposal-to-end-cabinet-row-temporarily-keep-uk-in-eu-customs-union-after-brexit/

Evening Standard: Tory rebels tell May: We’ll halt Britain’s exit from a customs union:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-rebels-tell-may-we-ll-halt-britain-s-exit-from-a-customs-union-a3774131.html

[2] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

The Daily Mail: Business group calls for a Turkey-style 'partial' customs union covering only industry and processed food:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5399071/Business-lobby-group-calls-partial-customs-union.html

[3] The Independent: Customs union: What is it, what would leaving it mean and what post-BREXIT alternatives are there?:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

[4] UK in a Changing Europe: What would retaining membership of the EU customs union mean for the UK?:

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/fact-figures/what-would-retaining-membership-of-the-eu-customs-union-mean-for-the-uk/

CBI: Customs Union:

http://www.cbi.org.uk/index.cfm/_api/render/file/?method=inline&fileID=D7C5FEA1-29FF-4302-85FA61236F02FF98

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[5] Institute for Government: Implementing BREXIT: Customs:

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/IfG_BREXIT_customs_WEB_0.pdf

Institute for Fiscal Studies: How might BREXIT affect food prices?:

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9562

[6] Full Fact is an independent and non-partisan fact-checking charity. They're an organisation who use primary sources and consult experts to check claims made by politicians, the media and pressure groups. You can find out more about Full Fact and the work they do on their website:

https://fullfact.org/

[7] 38 Degrees blog: Delegated powers: We won!

https://home.38degrees.org.uk/2017/12/13/delegated-powers-won/

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BREXIT is on

BREXIT is on

BREXIT has been triggered....

Theresa May pulls the trigger: the process of Britain leaving the EU is under way. There is no turning back, said the PM. The two-year countdown to BREXIT has begun.

Jon Snow is in Westminster getting all the political reaction, while Jackie Long is talking to the people of Hull who voted resoundingly in favour of BREXIT .

Meanwhile, Matt Frei is in Brussels where there was plenty of sadness about this divorce, but also some real steeliness. Adding a few veiled threats and some very clear red lines.


What do you think happy or about to set up another pointless online petition to overturn the referendum result?

Blair Wants more referendums to keep us in the EU

Blair Wants more referendums to keep us in the EU

By Rob Reid

The Fourth Reich is here and it seems to be a global one, which many people claim actually happened.

Have you seen the Man in the High Castle. You don't need to we have NAZI's running the biggest country in the world, putting business men into positions of power so they can gain more, and a "whats the point of nukes if you don't use them" US President.

If that was a quote to say we may as well scrap them to save money then good, no country needs thousands of nukes and ICBMS.

So we either have a new NAZI party or remnants of the old one remained and many believed they won the war....!

Yep that's right FBI Director J Edgar Hoover kept a file on all things NAZI until his death including sightings of Hitler in Africa, South America and even Washington DC.

Whilst it is true we divided the top NAZI scientists up to help with our own rocket systems such as Wernher von Braun, who developed the v1 and v2 doodlebugs that were dropped over London during the war, who was sent to the US to play a prominent part in NASA under Operation Paperclip.

It is not known if Hitler had a baby and that they intermingled with the Bushes to create a President killing, CIA drug running arms smuggling outfit that has finally taken over the White House with a millionaire looking out for other millionaires, until signing statements become the only way of making law in the US. More and more have been signed since George W Bush to Obama and now Trump.

Some of the more outlandish rumours claim.

• Many NAZI's escaped through the anti-Jewish Catholic rat runs out of Europe and down to South America. German U-Boats would turn up in their ports. 
• Reports of Hitler turned up with his wife and kid to go off and live in the Mountains. 
• A secret under water base the NAZIs had built to go and live at the end of the war which they escaped, mapped and met UFO's who helped them destroy Admiral Byrds fleet in Antarctica.
• His big fleet called Operation High Jump had to return within many months earlier than plan and this is what top Admiral Byrd said.

Admiral Richard E. Byrd warned today that the United States should adopt measures of protection against the possibility of an invasion of the country by hostile planes coming from the polar regions. The admiral explained that he was not trying to scare anyone, but the cruel reality is that in case of a new war, the United States could be attacked by planes flying over one or both poles. This statement was made as part of a recapitulation of his own polar experience, in an exclusive interview with International News Service. Talking about the recently completed expedition, Byrd said that the most important result of his observations and discoveries is the potential effect that they have in relation to the security of the United States. The fantastic speed with which the world is shrinking – recalled the admiral – is one of the most important lessons learned during his recent Antarctic exploration. I have to warn my compatriots that the time has ended when we were able to take refuge in our isolation and rely on the certainty that the distances, the oceans, and the poles were a guarantee of safety

Anyway at least the UK is trying to fight back by getting out of the EU (if we are allowed).

Leftists like Tony Blair have even emerged from the potting shed to give us his opinion on the EU and BREXIT. He wants us to have even more to re-join or not even leave the EU.





So what do you think? Do you agree with Blair or not.

He also wants another BREXIT referendum so as people find out about the terms of the BREXIT they get to vote to decide whether they need another referendum. This would allow people to do the old EU trick of making BREXIT so undesirable by having referendum and referendum until the right answer is given.

Or should he just go back to his shed and stay there.

Personally I think Tony Blair should just go back to his potting shed.

You gave us 4 wars, 1 illegal in Iraq, 1 pointless in Afghanistan and some see you as a war criminal. Others see you as George Bushes poodle and spokesman to give the Iraq war gravitas.

Whatever people see him as I wish he would Fxxk off.

Tony Blair Speech On BREXIT

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Tony Blair probably the most hated man in Britain after the Iraq war, the Chilcot Inquiry, Getting thrown out of a book signing event due to protests and of course his complicity in the redacted 28/29 9.11 Commission Report. Is back on the scene.

A report that's whole purpose was designed to get a war with Iraq going so that the Saudi's become the biggest oil, weapons and terrorist producers in the area.

The problem was there was no evidence so Tony Blair faked his dossier on the threat to British troops in Cyprus saying they could be hit within 45 minutes.

He also went along with the lies of the Bush administration who wanted to clear the area of Shi'ites and make a peaceful area for Israel to live and possibly expand into.

The Saudis are already working with Israel in Syria being blown up by Russian missiles. Or helping in the Yemen conflict. Oh and of course we are making billions selling planes, arms and armaments to this despotic regime that should be put on the Anti Human League Commission at the UN.

This is one thing I noticed about Putin this year. The Americans have a press conference every day where they tell Russia off, or threaten sanctions or some other threat. Putin just does it.

Like the intercepted Axis of Wars message to their ISIS buddie to start an attack on Syrian and Russian troops in Aleppo last month. Russia just sent some cruise missiles into this intel unit and killed the US, UK, Israeli, Saudi, Turkish and Qatari intel operators in there.

You could tell America was angry. They put Russia on notice in their next day's press conference and threatened sanctions which won't pass anyway.

This is Tony Blair telling us we were too stupid to understand the factors involved in leaving the EU and that it was too complex for us serfs to agree to out Lords decisions.

Tony Blair wants another EU referendum against the "catastrophe" of BREXIT.

 

The blurb underneath the video said:

Tony Blair calls for people to 'rise up' against BREXIT- BBC News. As if we the people, the majority of the countries votes, went to something we didn't understand. It wasn't all about migrants but left wing voters had good reasons to vote against the EU anyway.

Here is a very good video by increasingly popular anti austerity driver Mark Blythe at Browns University. We have some good talks on here from him, short to long, however I suggest checking them out first before you start calling all BREXIT voters immigrants. You can view a short one here.

Here he explains capitalism's possible collapse with in clear language how globalization and capitalism are failing people throughout the world and why that means more BREXIT's and Donald Trumps are on the way. 

This is a talk Mark Blythe gave on the Jimmy Dore show.

Then there is the usual abuse you get from the Murdoch Right Wing media and their offshoots. Katy the Evil one Hopkins on her radio show the other day gave Blair a good bashing in just like she did when Barrack Obama wanted us to stay in the EU.

These globalists just don't seem to understand that most young people (the majority and rising), don't read the Daily Mail or listen to Radio 4. They get their news from Twitter and Facebook links and afar from it being "fake news" there can be found some "real news" that is never shown on our TV stations.

Listen to her rant at Tony Blair here. 




Katie is one of those Marmite figures either you love her for speaking her mind over Migrants, Muslims, Drunkenness and the rest of British problems or you hate her for her crass attitude over people who have just died.

"Oh more sympathy for the refugees" she would say if washed up dead bodies came to the shore of Greece.

What do you think of her rant, agree or disagree and should she get Donald Trump on her show when he's here?

Use the relevant poll (top / bottom) of the page in the link below if you don't want to comment.

View the first original video at DarkPolitricks.com.

© 2017 Dark Politricks

Interview with Mark Blythe who predicted BREXIT and the rise of Donald Trump

Interview with Mark Blythe who predicted BREXIT and the rise of Donald Trump

Jimmy Dore show

This is an interview with the economist who both predicted BREXIT and the rise of Donald Trump to POTUS perfectly in the USA perfectly.

Here he explains capitalism's possible collapse with in clear language how globalization and capitalism are failing people throughout the world and why that means more BREXIT's and Donald Trumps are on the way. 

This is a talk gave on the Jimmy Dore show.

And here he talks about the aftermath of the US Presidential elections and the rise of "Trumpism" as he calls it around the globe.



What do you think about the global rise of Trumpsim, BREXIT and the possible backlash against the elites as Mark puts it.

If you are British please take the vote in the header about leaving the EU through BREXIT and if you are American please take the poll in the bottom about Donald Trump.

Or take both if you wish.

Please place your vote above in the header if you have't already.

BREXIT - MPS to get a vote

BREXIT - MPS to get a vote

38 Degrees

This is from 38 degrees who wanted to stay in the EU despite the country voting to leave.

From 38 Degrees

It’s official. Our MPs are getting a vote on BREXIT. Their decision will define our country for generations to come. It’ll change the lives of all of us living here.

Every day, MPs argue about what kind of BREXIT would be best for British people. But so far, we - the actual people - have been completely left out of the discussion.

This is our chance to change that, and it starts today. There are millions of us across the length and breadth of this country. If we work together, we can mount a massive campaign to make sure that before our MPs vote, they listen - really listen - to what we want from BREXIT.

With each step of BREXIT, we can make sure MPs are feeling the heat from us. We can drown out the lobbyists, the big business interests, the political insiders - and make sure parliament hears our demand for a BREXIT that works for the many, not the few.

But we’ll be taking on giants. It’ll be a long, hard slog. And it won’t come cheap.

Years from now, our history books will have a chapter dedicated to 2017 and BREXIT.

Nigel Farage knows it. The tabloids know it. The MPs campaigning to ignore the result of the referendum know it. Big business lobbyists know it too. That’s why they’re all working night and day to push their different BREXIT agendas. They’d much rather people like you and me kept quiet.

Days like today are no time to sit back and see what happens. If you chip in today, here’s how we can work together to make sure our voices are heard during the BREXIT negotiations

We can train and organise thousands of 38 Degrees members to meet our MPs and take our crowd sourced plan for BREXIT straight into the heart of government.

We can hire a crack team of analysts and investigators to run through the government’s plans for BREXIT with a fine-tooth comb - and expose the plans that put us or the issues we care about at risk.

We can scale up the 38 Degrees staff team dedicated to BREXIT, to make sure our people-powered plan is all over the media, in parliament and everywhere Theresa May turns.

We can pay for billboards, leaflets, Facebook ads and events in parliament to make sure MPs can’t miss our demands about what we want from BREXIT.

Today, we have a choice: sit back and watch the BREXIT deal happen without us. Or stand up for what we believe in, and do what we can to get the best deal possible. Robert - will you do your bit and chip in?

Chip in as much as you can afford to help the cause > https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/can-you-chip-in


On our own, BREXIT can feel too big to take on. But that’s the magic of 38 Degrees. When we take action together, we’re more than a match for any politician.

Just look what we did when we were faced with TTIP, the biggest corporate takeover attempt in our lifetime. Thousands upon thousands of us joined together and we brought that dangerous deal to its knees.

We need to harness that same energy and passion now to get the BREXIT deal we need and deserve.

Thanks for all you do,

David and the 38 Degrees team

Please visit 38 Degrees


Please if you have not voted yet whether you think it was the right or wrong decision to leave the EU please vote above in the poll located in the header.

Donald Trump offers the UK a fast and fair trade deal

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With all the scare stories of BREXIT causing Britain's demise, remember BREXIT could be a good thing, just like pulling out of the ERM was. We devalued, exported goods, our GDP grew and finally politicians from both Labour and the Tories could see there was little point in joining the Euro.

Trump loves the fact we voted OUT for BREXIT and he is ready to give us a great trade deal ASAP. Wouldn't that shove two fingers up Merkel for her to see us getting business deals with the USA plus the Commonwealth.

Deals with Australia, India, Canada and South Africa some of the most biggest emerging markets in the world plus all the other countries in the commonwealth are going to be needed and sorted fast and they are all lining up to get in the queue.

The country clearly voted to leave despite their being split down the middle between the cities and towns who benefit from the foreign labour and those who have seen their factories off shored, no job opportunities and bosses undercutting their wages by hiring Romanians and Poles to do the work for half the price.

There is no denying the voters who wanted to leave won the popular vote, 17,410,742 (to leave) v 16,141,242 (to remain), that's right down the middle at 51.% v 48.1%.

Yes the country is divided but apart from some dips in shares that then rose again - I bet a few bankers made a mint on that curve in our price - we have yet to see Armageddon yet in the UK.

So far BREXIT, seems like the first year of WWII, when we were at war but no fighting had began between British and German troops.

Obviously we haven't declared article 50 but Europeans are not stupid about the fact we are their biggest trading partner and putting extreme import tariffs on our goods into the EU will just lead to a trade war where we lower corporation tax to encourage companies to base themselves here and other policies that I am sure we have to use.

What do you think of BREXIT so far, apart from the loss of value in your wallet when shopping what have you noticed apart from less Polish car washers at garages?

Remember there is no need to spend 6+ years on a trade deal between the EU and Canada and the reason is that the EU is made up of northern industrial nations like Germany and southern tourist countries like Greece and Spain. Both areas want different things and trying to please all 20+ members to the same thing just isn't going to happen.

However the UK by itself can negotiate on it's own terms and not worry about French subsidies for farmers and German car makers when they make their deals.

They can undercut tariffs and other taxes and make it much more profitable to come and set up shop in the UK as the establishment papers scare us all saying everyone is moving offshore.

In my eyes, it's best to initiate article 50 ASAP so we can leave the EU free market and have a world wide market with all the various nations already scrambling to do deals with us without worrying about the EU.

So will the pound crush so low it will be worth squat or will it help our export industry to boom and encourage foreign companies to come and set up shop here?

Who knows but have a vote at the top of the page if you haven't so far.

BREXIT - The Labour Conference

BREXIT and the Labour Conference 2016

By Dark Politricks

With the UK political conference season upon us there has undoubtedly been news about BREXIT coming from the mouths of our politicians and leaders, in between drinking and partying that is.

Last week it was the Labour conference where it was Jeremy Corbyn's turn to speak about BREXIT.

Here is a Labour leader who has just won an even bigger mandate to lead the party after the botched coup by disaffected Blairites and MP's, upset that he didn't manage to persuade every Labour voter to tick the box to remain in the EU.

Why they would think white working class voters who have historically chosen to vote Labour would see the EU as a beaming citadel on the hill, when it has been their jobs that have been shipped overseas, their wages suppressed by bosses using cheap immigrant labour, and their children with the lack of housing options and overwhelmed public services, due to under-funding and over-use, I have no idea.

However many people on the left went and voted to leave the EU and this article explains why.

So the Blairites went ahead with their coup and lost.

In fact Corbyn increased his share of the vote to 61.8% and with the influx of new Labour members, the party is now the biggest in Europe with over half a million members.

Maybe the Blairites will now shut up and get behind their leader. They should be promoting the policies he espouses which it was made clear from the leadership debates that hardly any difference existed between the coups sacrificial lamb, Owen Smith, and Corbyn. You can watch one below.


In his conference speech, Corbyn promised to raise taxes on businesses to fund an overhaul of the UK’s educational system, promising employers they would see a return on the investment, with a future workforce that would be more skilled.

He also outlined plans for a surge of council house building funded by the removal of borrowing caps on local councils and a broad program of public investment with the reinstatement of some trade union rights.

Corbyn said he was offering “a new deal for rebuilding Britain”, including borrowing to invest billions in infrastructure, which he said would benefit businesses.

However, he said, he wanted to see business play its part in return, by paying more tax to fund a proposed “national education service” – a lifelong service from preschools to adult education.

So we have one leader willing to borrow money NOT for wars, or to pay for the massive increase in social welfare bills due to the lack of decent jobs, or to just give to the banks for a bailout.

Instead Corbyn wants to borrow to invest in the country, reduce our debt by increasing GDP by creating jobs and taxing the rich who let's face it, hold much more responsibility for the 2008 banking crisis than the millions of poor and middle class electorate that have suffered during the Tory austerity years.

Plus Corbyn wants lower housing costs so people can afford to get on the housing ladder or obtain social housing that has been kept out of the reach of millions for so long due to the lack of building by previous Tory and Labour governments.

Most importantly he wants to invest in education, especially in areas most hit by the migration that has come in recent years.

By increasing the nations skillset, he will put them on course for high paid jobs, and make Britain a desirable option for countries to invest in.

Maybe if the Tories had carried out some of these policies then not as many working class people would have seen migrants as a threat to their jobs, housing options, school places and increased hospital waiting times.

Maybe if the Tories had spent the billions they wasted on stupid wars in Libya and their undercover support of the FSA, al-Nusra Front and ISIS, who basically control all other rebel groups in Syria, we wouldn't have doubled our national debt since Labour last lost power.

In fact the national debt has risen by £555 billion since 2010 due to Tory policies.

If we stopped allowing banks to rob from us by borrowing from the Bank of England at 0.25% and then make free money by loaning it back to the public at high interest rates e.g 1,261% APR if you look Wonga, then maybe they wouldn't have lost David Cameron as their PM, and therefore the BREXIT vote.

You only have to watch daytime TV in the UK to see that the only growth industries seems to be Payday Loan companies who are taking advantage of poor people's need for loans and online poker, bingo, lottery cards and gambling operations.

This truly has become a nation where we borrow money at stupid costs and then chance it on the roll of a ball in the hope of getting rich.

You can watch Jeremy Corbyn's speech at the 2016 Labour conference below.


What do you think about the idea that we should be investing in our country to grow our GDP instead of borrowing money to fill the growing national debt the Tories have caused from their austerity measures?

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By Dark Politricks

© 2016 Dark Politricks

Johnathan Pie Unelectable Corbyn gets elected again

Johnathan Pie Unelectable Corbyn gets elected again

Once again the satirist, Johnathan Pie hits the nail on the head with Jeremy Corbyn's 2nd leadership election victory in a year.

Uneletable?

Well he now has an even bigger mandate to run Labour than he did before.

Plus the Labour party now is the biggest political party in Europe with half a million members.

At a time when other political parties are dying. We have witnessed something akin to a reverse takeover of the Labour party. It is incomplete and it is certainly contested, but it is real.

Also by invoking the victories of Sadiq Khan in London and Marvin Rees in Bristol, he was showing that a social movement can yield victory at the ballot box.

Let's see what Johnathan Pie has to say about the unelectable Labour leader.



What do you think of Jeremy Corbyn's 2nd massive victory to stay Labour leader within a year?

Is he really unelectable or are you just falling for the Murdoch press media?

The Tory spin in the Daily Mail and Telegraph that spews out the lies that we cannot spend our money investing in the country but rather on wars, Trident and filling the holes in the Treasury caused by austerity measures?

View the original video on youtube.com.

Jonathan Pie on the end of BREXIT

Jonathan Pie on the end of BREXIT

To All my US friends this is satire so please don't go mental when viewing it thinking it's a real NEWS channel.

Jonathan Pie is a well known satirist in the UK and has made many political based videos which you can watch at his channel on YouTube.

As Johnathan Pie says about the video "Westminster is covered in blood and shit...it's time to clean up" according to himself..



How do you feel months on from the BREXIT vote.

Have you changed you mind since the vote months ago or has nothing really changed around you for you to be worried about?

Has it moved to the slowest exit of a political body ever or should Article 50 be enacted immediately so we can leave the EU as soon as as possible.

Take your vote above in the header if you have't already..

Nigel Farage's Top Speeches

Nigel Farage Resigns as head of UKIP

By Dark Politricks

As we say goodbye to Nigel Farage from the political scene I thought I would collate an article of his most famous speeches in the EU Parliament.

Nigel Farage is the man who started the UK Independence Movement to leave the EU, he helped convince the country that we should vote for BREXIT, and has now chosen to resign from UKIP saying that the job is now done.

He went to Brussels and got paid handsomely as an MEP but at least he told everyone about it, unlike the other tax payer milking ex politicos. He let on about the massive expenses, the special passports that gave him the right to jump queues at airports and the daily allowances just for turning up at work.

He wanted us to make him redundant, he actually begged us to make him jobless, and unlike many in the EU parliament he had actually held down a real job before becoming a politician.

So whatever you think of him, and whilst he never sat in the Houses of Commons, you cannot deny that he's managed to change the whole political scene in the UK and Europe, mostly as a one man band for a lot of the time.

You can listen to his resignation speech below where he attacks the undemocratic centralised control of the EU and the mass joblessness of the youth across southern Europe due to the Euro.

He also talks about the rush of Commonwealth countries like Australia and New Zealand who have already contacted us already about forming one to one trade deals.



I agree with Nigel that I am worried about our BREXIT.

We cannot have politics as normal and we cannot have a REMAIN campaigner as our PM doing the deal with Europe for us.

We should be busy doing our one to one deals with other countries now, and quickly, so that businesses and employees can see we are getting on with things and help settle the markets that went totally mental after the vote but seem to be getting back to normal now.

We need to ignore all the mass protests by Remain voters who are sore losers.

We need to ignore all the Internet polls saying that London should become a city-state and all the lawyers who are demanding the UK Government ignore the referendum result.

These people can use all the legal technicalities they want but morally the vote has been won and we should get on with things and make the best of them like we always do in the UK.

UKIP maybe to the right of the UK political spectrum and many people might think it's just full of old people who hate foreigners.

However what they don't realise is that many UKIP supporters are poorer and younger workers who have suffered due to wage suppression and globalisation.

This is why I cannot believe Labour have chosen this time to attack Jeremy Corbyn for not doing enough to get Labour voters to vote remain.

How can he be blamed for the evils of globalisation that have caused the poor to suffer. It's the rich Blairites and Politicos that just don't understand why people on the left could possibly vote to leave the EU.

Globalisation hasn't done everyone favours.

It may have raised wages in poorer countries but it has lowered them in richer countries. We are now all fighting to prevent the international corporations forcing us to all work to Chinese sweatshop levels and the lowest common level.

By allowing companies within the UK to hire cheap Eastern European labour and undercut UK workers the politicians only have themselves to blame.

Labour under Blair and Brown opened the doors to our current multicultural society, a policy they have now apologised for, and they have to accept responsibility for all the unemployment caused by it.

Thousands of UK people put out of work due to their jobs being taken by people willing to work longer hours and for much less pay than them.

Why we can't have some sensible laws such as enforcing companies to offer ALL jobs to UK born citizens at least 5 times, including the long-term unemployed before even thinking of hiring an overseas worker I have no idea.

It wouldn't be hard to implement but it would cut a hole in these rich global elites pockets and who gives a toss - I don't.

That is why so many Labour voters chose to vote to leave and that is why Labour should be looking at Tony Blair and Gordon Brown for blame and NOT Jeremy Corbyn for the mass Labour vote to leave the undemocratic EU.

However as we are saying goodbye to one of the most colourful characters of the UK and European political stage I thought I would collate some of Nigel's finest outbursts and speeches for you.

Nigel's Most Famous Speech - "Who are you?"

Starting with a personal famous favourite here. Nigel Farage welcoming the newly unelected EU President Herman van Rompuy to the EU Parliament.

"You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" were the famous words that made the UKIP leader a household name around the globe.

One year later - "Who the Hell Do You Think You Are?"

One year after that speech he attacks him again for being the poster boy for Euroscepticism due to the failure of the Euro and the crisis in the EU.

The EU Parliament President attacked by Farage

Here is another EU President being attacked by Nigel Farage in the EU parliament. He sure doesn't make any friends in the room with his speeches.

Nigel Farage Savages Angela Merkel

Here is Nigel savaging the German leader and David Cameron about how she is leading the EU to a more centralised federal system and how the UK can do nothing about it due to the country not being inside the Euro.

"Who do you think you are kidding Mr Juncker"

Here is Nigel attacking the EU for their desire to create an EU army and apparently wanting to fight Russia over Ukraine.

Nigel's speech that won the BREXIT vote

This is a speech that Nigel made in June about Turkey blackmailing the EU as well as being an ally of ISIS, using their NATO membership to bomb their Kurdish enemies in Syria instead.

He talks about the flooding of Europe with weapons, allowing millions of poor undocumented migrants to become documented, and the failure of the EU to solve the refugee crisis.

The EU ask him in response whether he supported these wars that caused all the refugees and he replies defiantly that NO he would have voted against them all if he was in the UK parliament.

Nigels attacks Gordon Brown on hypocrisy

Here Nigel takes on the ex Labour PM, Gordon Brown, who went back on his pledge to give the UK a vote on the Lisbon treaty (EU Constitution), after the Irish voted against it in their first referendum.

He also attacks him for selling 400 metric tons of Gold at a massively devalued price and his poor management of the UK economy.

Nigel takes on Tony Blair the war criminal

Here Farage attacks Tony Blair for his failure to secure the UK rebate and his failure to reform the EU on their common agricultural policy.

Goodbye EU, I won!

"When I came here 17 years ago and I said I wanted to lead a campaign to leave the EU you all laughed at me, well you're not laughing now are you...."

This is Nigel Farage's victory speech in the days after the BREXIT vote, in which the Vote Leave side won. He had finally achieved his dream ambition of leading the UK out of the EU.



So what do you think of UKIP leader Nigel Farage and his successful, almost one man campaign to leave the EU that snowballed into winning EU elections, hundreds of seats on local councils and even 2 MPs?

Will he go down in history as one of England’s most successful politicians or will his name be blotted out of history due to the remain side's bitterness at us leaving the EU against their will?

Let me know what you think and remember to take the new poll at the top of the page on whether we should have voted to leave or stay in the EU. Do YOU have buyers remorse?

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By Dark Politricks

 

© 2016 Dark Politricks

What Europeans Think About BREXIT

What Europeans Think About BREXIT

The following are two videos from a European perspective on the UK vote to leave the EU.

First an opinion given before the vote from an ex Norwegian Government minister who compares the "project fear" tactics rolled out by the Remain campaign, to her own EU referendums.

They had two referendums in 1972 and 1994, and they voted NO BOTH times.

However they still pay just over half a billion to be part of the European Single Market and have to accept free movement of people and labour.

She declares the "Project Fear" to be "All Rubbish", and that we have "Nothing to fear from BREXIT".


Now from an opinion from a famous Italian Economist who lists out all the benefits from us voting to leave the EU. 

Paolo Barnard, is a very censored Italian economic journalist and he lists all the reasons we should not fear a BREXIT in the video below.

It is also very interesting for all those on the Remain side who have scoffed at claims from myself and others on the left who have voted out due to the push towards globalism and the downward push on wages that:

“for what are the Bilderbergs men trembling for (then)? What are the huge companies afraid of? No they’re not scared of an economic loss, they are scared of the loss of control over a neo-feudal, authoritarian and anti-democratic project called the European Union.” – Paolo Barnard.

So did either of these videos calm your fears about voting BREXIT or do you still believe we are sailing dangerous waters with the prospect of Scotland voting to leave the UK? 

This seems unlikely seeing that the SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon tried recently to reach out to the EU to see if Scotland could remain in the EU and was rebuffed.

She was told that the whole of the UK must leave the EU including the parts that voted to Remain such as Northern Ireland and Scotland.

She was also told that despite SNP claims to the contrary in the recent lost Scottish Independence Vote, that she would have to re-apply to join the EU, and most importantly accept the Euro.

This was NOT something she wanted to hear as the SNP claimed during the last vote that they would be able to keep the pound despite the claims by the UK Chancellor that this was not possible.

Having to wait years without free trade with the rest of the UK OR Europe would leave Scotland in an even worse position that the UK now as at least they can trade with England AND Europe for the next 2 years until we de-tangle from the EU under Article 50.

If Scotland leaves the UK they would be alone and in uncertain waters. The Euro is a failing project and that is probably one of the reasons they wanted to keep the pound.

So don't worry about the UK splitting up, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

What do you think?

Are you worried?

Rememebr to vote at the top of the page if you think we made the right or wrong decision.

Blairites attempt a coup against their leader just at the time we need strong leadership

Blairites attempt a coup against their leader just at the time we need strong leadership

By Dark Politricks
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Just at the time we need strong leadership after the EU vote, and the Tory party are split fighting over who should be the next leader, the Labour party decide to mount a coup against their leader.

Hillary Benn was sacked last night for attempting to foment a coup against Jeremy Corbyn, and now loads of Blairites have decided to quit their posts as well.

This is very selfish and dangerous as we cannot have both of the major parties in chaos at the time that the country needs a steady hand, and stability in a post EU world. 

The markets hate instability, and with both the Tories and Labour infighting, and the Prime Minister David Cameron resigning, it is certainly not the right time for Labour Blairite traitors to try and split their own party up.

Don't they remember that Jeremy Corbyn had the biggest mandate in Labour history to become leader?

He got so many votes from all 3 sectors, including half a million people who signed up as affiliate members so that they could vote in the leadership election, that he won overwhelmingly.

Therefore the Blairites are really stupid to attempt a coup at this time. They really are a disgrace to all the millions of Labour voters, who voted to leave the EU for very good reasons.

How they can blame Jeremy Corbyn for losing the remain vote, I really have no idea.

It really is a stupid opportunistic attack at the wrong time in my opinion, and one they have been plotting for months. They never accepted the leadership vote and have been waiting for a time to attack Corbyn for ages.

All the Labour voters who chose to vote out had very good reasons to do so and none of that could be changed by Jeremy Corbyn just telling them to vote to remain.

These reasons include: the lack of democracy within the EU, the pressure on public services they rely on, longer waiting times at the NHS, plus the constant downward push on wages to the lowest common EU level.

This is all caused by the rich globalist elites who make their money from lower wages, and it is these international corporations and bankers, or the powerful 1%, who wanted us to stay in the EU and gain from many poor peoples suffering due to it.

Therefore it is mostly millions of Labour voters who suffered the most from the EU and the push towards globalism.

Blairites like Hillary Benn and the Tories are constantly pushing towards more globalist, central governance, and this has an effect on people lives that they obviously don't understand. Why? Because they don't suffer like the majority of people in this country.

When they are ill they don't have to wait 6 months for a hospital appointment, they go to BUPA, or their private doctor.

They don't have to worry about their wages, as they get to vote on how much they get paid.

They don't have to wait years for a council house, as they get paid enough to live in 2 house. Usually one in their constituency and one in London so they can live near work.

Therefore they have no concept of what normal people have to go through.

They just don’t understand why millions of Labour voters would chose to leave the EU.

Hillary's dad, Tony Benn, was vehemently anti-EU, and he would have been ashamed of his son if he was still alive.

What did Tony Benn say about the EU?

• What powers do you have?
• Who gave them to you?
• On whose behalf are you using them?
• And how can we get rid of you?

Well the EU has a lot of powers, we the people didn’t vote to give them those power, they are using them on behalf of the globalists and big international corporations, and the people of the UK just voted to get rid of them.

You can watch him in action now.


So with the Labour party splitting itself up, and the Tories doing the same. I wouldn't be surprised if a new political party based around MP's who wanted to remain in the EU was formed. It probably will be full of Tories who wanted to stay in the EU and Blairites, who are in reality just Tory Lite.

Tony Blair was sometimes more right wing than the Tories. Especially when it came to our democracy and civil rights.

He removed many rights including those to protest, to remain silent without prejudice if arrested, and he turned the UK into the most surveilled nation on earth. We have CCTV cameras on every lamppost and shop corner and are monitored constantly online by GCHQ. Also the Lisbon treaty (or European Constitution) was signed under Blairs successor and partner in crime for decades, Gordon Brown.

So never think of the Blairites as left wing they aren't. 

If they were true left wing MP's they would be supporting their leader not trying to overthrow him at a time of major instability.

This is what George Galloway another major personality from the left who voted to leave the EU has to say about the current Labour coup, and the possible split within the Labour party.


So what do you think?

Do you believe that we will see two Labour parties, one based around the millions of Labour voters, members and affiliates who support Corbyn, and one filled with Blairites?

Or do you think we might see some sort of party based around Tories and Blairites who all wanted to remain in the EU instead?

Let me know.

Don't forget to vote at the top of the page if you think leaving the EU was the right thing to do or not.

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By Dark Politricks

© Dark Politricks

Why the left voted to Leave the EU

Why the left voted to Leave the EU

The votes came in during Thursday night, and the world woke up to shock on Friday morning. The UK had voted to leave the EU.

There is no denying that the voting was very close with 51.9% people voting to leave and 48.1% of UK citizens voting to stay.

This map of the UK on the BBC news site shows the breakdown of the vote.

There is also no denying that the UK is now very split because of the decision. Apart from London, the cosmopolitan city of the world where a hundred nations have their own "China Town" areas, the rest of England voted to leave in strong numbers.

Wales also overwhelmingly voted to leave, but Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay. This is obviously going to cause many further issues with the SNP already calling for another referendum on leaving the UK.

We could be seeing the breakup of the UK and maybe even the EU with many other nations wanting their own vote to leave the EU.

However despite the issues many people will be wondering why so many people on the left side of politics voted to leave the EU.

We already knew that huge swathes of right wing Tories and UKIP supporters have been waiting for years for a chance to vote to leave the EU, but lots of you will be wondering why so many left wing and Labour voters chose to also vote to leave the EU.

Isn't the left supposed to be all for the EU, and the social aspects of a Europe. An area where we all are one people on the same continent, working and living where we want, and having our rights protected on a European level?

Well this video might help you understand why left wing voters decided to support a BREXIT.

It's a talk by Mark Blyth a professor of Political Economy at Brown University.

In the video he talks about the BREXIT vote and the ramifications for the ‎UK and ‎Europe.

He also considers the current situation in ‎Greece and the long run effects of what he calls "Trampism".

It is well worth watching if you are wondering why people voted to leave from the left.



So did that video help you understand why the left voted to leave the EU?

Remember, the Blairites are not real left wingers and their opportunistic attack on Jeremy Corbyn just proves that fact.

Labour is supposed to be the party of the workers but many of the poor white working class Labour voters have been the people to suffer worst from globalism and "free trade", a system where prices and wages are pressured downwards to the lowest level.

You could be having your job threatened by workers from the Eastern European countries who are willing to work for less than you.

Or you could be waiting long times for doctors appointments due to the large number of people needing the services and not enough GP's and consultants to handle the pressures.

Or you see successive right wing (Blairite and Tory) Governments not funding our public services to the right levels, or building enough council houses.

If so then you are going to be angry and pissed off.

Who are you going to blame?

Well many people on the right have blamed the migrants but many on the left blame the establishment and the constant push towards globalism.

The UK government, Blairites, the EU and all the other globalist entities including the worldwide corporations who benefit from cheap labour and their ability to base companies in cheap tax havens, are the ones who have been the ire of many on the left.

These people are not racist they are just suffering, and they see the EU and other global forces and ideas such as the TTIP trade agreement. 

This is one agreement which we are now hopefully out of due to it being agreed on an EU / US level. 

The forces who want TTIP have helped push countries to offshore their jobs to lower wage countries and allow cheap labour to flood into the UK. These are all globalist plans which have hurt so many poor unskilled, skilled and even professional workers.

So hopefully that video will help you understand why many on the left wing voted for BREXIT and it may even make you think that it was the right decision.

Let me know in the new poll at the top of the page,

68% of you voted to leave in the last poll so that may tell you something about the division in the country over the EU referendum vote. It's definitely a country split down the middle on the EU.

However now we have left you many have changed your mind about your decision.

Put your mouse where your heart is and tell me what you think.

Before you vote today please read this article

Before you vote today please read this article

For the first time in my life I, like many of you, are going to be asked what is probably the most important question ever, one that could affect the country and all our lives for decades to come.

Whether we should stay or remain in the EU.

Some people like to boil it down to a simple question of little Englanders versus educated metropolitan elites. However everyone's perspective and experiences of living within the EU differs and one cannot gloss over certain facts and issues with promises and maybes. Whatever way vote it is a leap into the dark.

If we vote to leave there could be economic consequences and if we vote to stay there could be even more issues. Mostly related to living in an already overcrowded island and definitley as part of an undemocratic club that wishes to unite even further, pushing ever more towards a United States of Europe (source: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/valeacutery-giscard-destaing-the-eu-treaty-is-the-same-as-the-constitution-398286.html)

I didn't get a chance to vote to join the EEC and many people who did have now decades later changed their minds. Why? Because we are no longer just in the European Economic Community we are in the European Union.

The change of name should tell you a lot as the EU is a very different beast to the EEC and even the remain campaigners admit there are many problems with a democratic deficit, migration, and pressures on our services and housing due to our membership.

The problem is that the EU needs to integrate even further than the current undemocratic bureaucracy because of the one part of the EU we don't belong to, the EURO. 

Without a proper fiscal and political union the EURO is bound to fail. Nations like Greece, Spain and Italy have seen what happens when they cannot reduce or increase their own interest rates or de-value their currencies due to being locked into the EURO. It causes job losses, mass migration of their youth and austerity measures forced upon them.

Luckily, despite all the main economists, bankers, IMF, the World Bank and most of the same people who say we must remain in the EU now, we decided to stay out of the EURO. That helped our economy and we had one of the longest economic booms since the World War. We actually finally managed to pay off our debts to the USA for World War I and World War II!

If you can remember the 80's and 90's then you will remember interest rates of 12-15%+ which made borrowing expensive but it also meant you could actually get proper interest on your savings in the bank.

This was also a time where anyone in society could sign up to their local council to be put on the housing list and accumulate points the longer they were on it. There was none of this current shortage of council or housing association stock. A situation where you are turned away unless homeless or seriously ill, and sometimes not even then. All due to the lack of housing association stock which has been used up a long time ago and not replaced by the government.

Also during this time when Maggie Thatcher was exporting our manufacturing jobs offshore, closing the mines and turning the UK into a service economy whilst privatising anything she could,we joined something called the ERM.

This was the European Exchange Rate Mechanism where European countries pledged to keep their currencies in check with each other. I quote from the fount of all knowledge Wikipedia.

We joined the ERM in October 1990, effectively guaranteeing that the British Government would follow an economic and monetary policy that would prevent the exchange rate between the pound and other member currencies from fluctuating by more than 6%.

On the 8th of October 1990, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher entered the pound into the ERM mechanism at DM 2.95 to the pound. Hence, if the exchange rate ever neared the bottom of its permitted range, DM 2.773, the government would be obliged to intervene. With UK inflation at three times the rate of Germany's, interest rates at 15% and the "Lawson Boom" about to bust, the conditions for joining the ERM were not favourable at that time.

The signs were not good and what happened? Speculators such as George Soros bet against the pound and we couldn't manage to keep within the range set. This caused Black Wednesday where over £3 billion was lost and Soros made over a billion by shorting the pound.

We were forced out of the ERM and we devalued our currency.

At the time it was all doom and gloom but by actually de-linking our currency from the Germans we actually managed to start exporting goods and a few years later our economic recovery started.

What does all this have to do with the EU you may be asking?

Well it shows you that without a proper federal Europe, which many politicians and EU commissioners have called for over the years in public, the EURO will fail. 

When countries cannot control their own currency and interest rates due to the rules of a giant trading block in which certain countries like Germany do well in manufacturing, and others like Italy and Spain, are mainly tourist based, there are very different fiscal requirements for each country. Therefore if the EURO is to succeed more political and fiscal union must happen. This has been discussed many times and is openly admitted by many on the remain side.

Whatever good you may think the EU has done with the protection of workers rights, environmental concerns and free trade and visa free living, we are not in this central gang of countries that are heading towards a United States of Europe.

Whatever you may think, the Germans, French and others all realise that for the EURO to succeed they must have closer ties and they are pushing for a more Federal Europe.

This poses a problem for us.

Without being members of the EURO we will be forced to adopt EU laws and regulations that are made to help the EURO countries and not us.

We are just one voice at a big table and they want to take away the veto on many issues which would prevent us from stopping certain laws that come in to help the EURO ZONE countries not us.

Now you may not care who makes your laws, or whether you can't get a council flat or even find a place to rent or buy within your price range due to the mass shortage of housing in this country.

However if you do, you have to realise that the mass migration that started after Labour opened the doors to newly admitted Eastern European countries in the early part of the century, has caused pressures that we just cannot cope with.

Migrants help the NHS and they do wonderful jobs, pay tax and all the rest of the things English people do.

However if our governments, Labour and Tory, cannot build enough houses for the people already living in the country then how are they going to manage to build a city the size of Liverpool, every year for the current estimate of 300,000 migrants that enter the country. Whether half of these people come from outside the EU or not is irrelevant. Migration HAS changed the country.

You only have to walk around many towns to wonder if you are in England or Nepal, Poland or Pakistan.

You may like sitting on the bus hearing a myriad of languages being spoke and not understanding any of them.

You may like getting your car washed at the local garage for a tenner by what is really slave labour.

You may like being treated at the hospital by nurses and doctors we have basically stolen from poorer nations. Countries who had spent lots of money training them, just so that they could migrate here and get better wages.

You may like the multicultural society we have become, but you have to admit that we cannot cope with the current population pressures on our services as it is, let alone the estimated 80 million in a decade or so.

If our government cannot manage to build enough houses as it is how do you think they are going to suddenly start building millions that will be required?

It may be great if you are already a home owner as a shortage means your property value rises but if you want to buy or rent the prices are extortionate and you will be waiting a long time.

So when you go to vote tomorrow just think about what it will be like in 15 years time when our already over crowded country has an extra 10 million plus people in it.

We already have one of the highest levels of people living per square mile in the world. How will it be when rent for a single bedroom flat is over a grand a month and you have to wait 8 months or more for a hospital appointment.

I just got told yesterday that my current referral to the pain clinic which was sent off over 3 months ago will be in September, almost another 3 months away. That's 6 months for a serious condition and this is now. Imagine what it will be like in a decades time when our underfunded NHS has to cope with 80 million people. How long will we have to wait for an operation or consultation then?

I have nothing against migrants, nearly every doctor I have seen who has tried helping me has been one.

I have nothing against free trade, it helps our economy.

I have nothing against the Human Rights Act, it protects our rights when our own government wants to remove them.

I have nothing against co-operation with European nations on terrorism, crime and the environment. We need to join together to crack serious crime and stop ISIS gunmen attacking pubs and clubs.

However all this can be AND should be possible without having to be part of the EU.

I do have a problem though, as the left wing Tony Benn famously said, with not being able to vote out the people who make the rules I have to live by.

The EU may only make a small proportion of them but it is one of the most undemocratic bodies in the world. The most democratic part of it, the European Parliament has the least power within the whole giant bureaucratic body.

The EU Commission makes the rules we have to abide by if we want to participate in the free trade zone, even if you are not trading with the EU.

Many small companies don't even do business with European nations yet they still have to abide by the regulations they put out. They may be good for some things such as protecting our paid holidays and health and safety but telling manufactures of goods how they must be made when they are not even trading with the EU is red tape that small companies still have to comply with.

So just think today when you go and vote whether you want to have to wait half a year for a hospital appointment because of the number of people already waiting ahead of you and the failure of our government to properly fund and staff the NHS.

The remain campaign is right when they say this is not the fault of the EU but if our government is not doing it now WHY would they suddenly start if we voted to remain in the EU?

The same goes for the argument of reforming the EU from the inside out.

We have had decades to reform the EU and what has happened......nothing.

So what makes you think we will suddenly have a much louder and more important voice than the other nations if we vote to remain in the EU club?

Remember, we are the 5th biggest economy in the world. 

When people claim that is to do with the EU they are forgetting the 400+ years before World War I when we were the biggest economy in the world. 

We traded with all nations and we did pretty well before we had to borrow billions to fight 2 World Wars.

So whatever you decide to do today just think about the future first.

We may suffer a dip in the pound for a bit and shock horror, as one business man from the remain side said, wage rises! Also if we can reduce the number of people coming into the country and start building some more houses the prices will come down and you will be able to afford to get onto the ladder.

Remortgaging your house on the backs of the homeless isn't fair or right and your only gaining wealth due to the shortage of housing in the country.

Remember it was people remortgaging and living on credit cards that made our post 2008 recession so bad. The boom we had under Gordon Brown was built on debt. That is no way to build a strong economy.

Forget the experts, they are all globalists and elitists who want to see unions of countries all over the world. Less boundaries ensure that they can make more money themselves. They have got it wrong before and there is a good chance they will have got it wrong again.

I hate to have this vote whilst the Tories are in power as I don't trust them one bit and that is the one thing that worries me about leaving. 

However if we do leave David Cameron and Osborne will be gone pretty sharpish and I have no doubt we will have a chance to vote in another government, one that would protect our civil and working rights without the need for the EU.

One last point.

If we were not currently in the EU would you vote to join it? 

If the answer is no then you should be voting to leave. If it's yes then vote remain.

The choice is yours but it will affect our lives whatever choice we all make.