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Showing posts with label Tony Benn. Show all posts
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Sunday, 26 June 2016

Blairites attempt a coup against their leader just at the time we need strong leadership

Blairites attempt a coup against their leader just at the time we need strong leadership

By Dark Politricks
www.darkpolitricks.com

Just at the time we need strong leadership after the EU vote, and the Tory party are split fighting over who should be the next leader, the Labour party decide to mount a coup against their leader.

Hillary Benn was sacked last night for attempting to foment a coup against Jeremy Corbyn, and now loads of Blairites have decided to quit their posts as well.

This is very selfish and dangerous as we cannot have both of the major parties in chaos at the time that the country needs a steady hand, and stability in a post EU world. 

The markets hate instability, and with both the Tories and Labour infighting, and the Prime Minister David Cameron resigning, it is certainly not the right time for Labour Blairite traitors to try and split their own party up.

Don't they remember that Jeremy Corbyn had the biggest mandate in Labour history to become leader?

He got so many votes from all 3 sectors, including half a million people who signed up as affiliate members so that they could vote in the leadership election, that he won overwhelmingly.

Therefore the Blairites are really stupid to attempt a coup at this time. They really are a disgrace to all the millions of Labour voters, who voted to leave the EU for very good reasons.

How they can blame Jeremy Corbyn for losing the remain vote, I really have no idea.

It really is a stupid opportunistic attack at the wrong time in my opinion, and one they have been plotting for months. They never accepted the leadership vote and have been waiting for a time to attack Corbyn for ages.

All the Labour voters who chose to vote out had very good reasons to do so and none of that could be changed by Jeremy Corbyn just telling them to vote to remain.

These reasons include: the lack of democracy within the EU, the pressure on public services they rely on, longer waiting times at the NHS, plus the constant downward push on wages to the lowest common EU level.

This is all caused by the rich globalist elites who make their money from lower wages, and it is these international corporations and bankers, or the powerful 1%, who wanted us to stay in the EU and gain from many poor peoples suffering due to it.

Therefore it is mostly millions of Labour voters who suffered the most from the EU and the push towards globalism.

Blairites like Hillary Benn and the Tories are constantly pushing towards more globalist, central governance, and this has an effect on people lives that they obviously don't understand. Why? Because they don't suffer like the majority of people in this country.

When they are ill they don't have to wait 6 months for a hospital appointment, they go to BUPA, or their private doctor.

They don't have to worry about their wages, as they get to vote on how much they get paid.

They don't have to wait years for a council house, as they get paid enough to live in 2 house. Usually one in their constituency and one in London so they can live near work.

Therefore they have no concept of what normal people have to go through.

They just don’t understand why millions of Labour voters would chose to leave the EU.

Hillary's dad, Tony Benn, was vehemently anti-EU, and he would have been ashamed of his son if he was still alive.

What did Tony Benn say about the EU?
  • What powers do you have?
  • Who gave them to you?
  • On whose behalf are you using them?
  • And how can we get rid of you?


Well the EU has a lot of powers, we the people didn’t vote to give them those power, they are using them on behalf of the globalists and big international corporations, and the people of the UK just voted to get rid of them.

You can watch him in action now.


So with the Labour party splitting itself up, and the Tories doing the same. I wouldn't be surprised if a new political party based around MP's who wanted to remain in the EU was formed. It probably will be full of Tories who wanted to stay in the EU and Blairites, who are in reality just Tory Lite.

Tony Blair was sometimes more right wing than the Tories. Especially when it came to our democracy and civil rights.

He removed many rights including those to protest, to remain silent without prejudice if arrested, and he turned the UK into the most surveilled nation on earth. We have CCTV cameras on every lamppost and shop corner and are monitored constantly online by GCHQ. Also the Lisbon treaty (or European Constitution) was signed under Blairs successor and partner in crime for decades, Gordon Brown.

So never think of the Blairites as left wing they aren't. 

If they were true left wing MP's they would be supporting their leader not trying to overthrow him at a time of major instability.

This is what George Galloway another major personality from the left who voted to leave the EU has to say about the current Labour coup, and the possible split within the Labour party.


So what do you think?

Do you believe that we will see two Labour parties, one based around the millions of Labour voters, members and affiliates who support Corbyn, and one filled with Blairites?

Or do you think we might see some sort of party based around Tories and Blairites who all wanted to remain in the EU instead?

Let me know.

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View the original article at www.darkpolitricks.com.

By Dark Politricks

© Dark Politricks



Tuesday, 7 June 2016

Hillary Benn on why we should vote to remain in the EU

Hillary Benn on why we should vote to remain in the EU


The Labour MP, Hilary Benn, gives an interview on his support for staying in EU, totally against his fathers opinions which you can view here by clicking this link for an interview with Tony Benn.

The video calls it a car crash interview due to his stumbling across topics such as:

  1. The UK cannot stop EU immigrants while in EU. 
  2. Our housing problem. 
  3. Labour's support for TTIP which will allow American corporations to buy up our remaining national industries and even sue us if we introduce laws which will cost them profits.



Do you think this is a car crash interview?

Does the thought of US global corporations buying up the UK and suing us for costing them profits scare you?

If it does would being inside the EU with a threat of the French vetoing the whole TTIP treaty which has been negotiated on an EU level make you feel safer than being at the mercy of Blairites and Tories who would undoubtedly sign us up for TTIP as soon as they can if we left?

Wednesday, 27 April 2016

Yanis Varoufakis on why Britain must stay in Europe

Yanis Varoufakis on why Britain must stay in Europe

This is a Guardian debate on the EU with the ex Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, on why Britain must stay in Europe.

He is a bit of a "pop star" economist since he became well known due to the Greek economic crisis where was filmed on the news riding around on his motor bike during his negotiations with the Troika, the European Commission (EC), the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the European Central Bank (ECB).

Here he discusses the battle he had with these entities over their harsh austerity policies that were implemented despite a Greek referendum to reject the offer of debt and loans to supposedly keep the Greek economy afloat.

This is one of the things we must note about the EU and what happens when states hold referendums that provide results the EU doesn't like.

If the people vote "NO", countries such as will just hold another referendum until you vote the "right way", or like Greece, they just ignore the peoples will and go ahead with the deal that was being voted on anyway.

Greece was entered into the Euro after Goldman Sachs helped them fiddle the figures that made them seem more economically afloat than they really were. They are now loaded up with so much debt that they were forced to even sell off sell off parts of it's own country to raise money.

It had to "privatise", the sea coast at Afandou, which is part of the Greek government's attempts to raise money by privatising its vast portfolio of state-owned assets. It was called the largest firesale in history. Some 70,000 lots were for sale, ranging from pristine stretches of coast through to royal palaces, marinas, thermal baths, ski resorts and entire islands.

However Greece is now loaded up with so much debt it will take forever, unless it is written off, to pay back. Austerity in Greece caused mass migration of it's educated youth to flee to other European countries to find work, the closure of hospitals and whole shopping centres, and a massive unemployment rate (25.6% in March 2015).

We must remember though that even Germany and France have broken the "rules" that countries are supposed to keep to such as the amount of debt they have. Countries within the Euro cannot manage their own interest rates which the UK currently can.



Yanis Varoufakis mentions during the speech a quote by Tony Benn about democracy where he claims for a political body to be democratic you must be able to look your rulers in the eye and ask them three questions.

What powers do you have?
Who gave them to you?
On whose behalf are you using them?
And how can we get rid of you?

Do we have these powers now within the EU? 

No we don't, however Yanis believes the UK should stay within it until it is reformed, no matter how long this would take.

This is the problem we face with the EU vote. It has already been multiple decades since we joined the EEC which then turned into the EU and the state of democracy has not got better. Therefore how long should we wait within the EU until it becomes truly democratic?

The answer would be to give the European Parliament overall power over the European Union and create a true federal state. A lot of British people don't want this. Liberals and Conservatives both believe that democracy happens closer to the people.

As the Guardian commentator states, Yanis is really making a call for fiscal union and economic union under a German designed system. He does refute this and gives an answer where he states that a democratic federal union is the opposite of this, also if we disband the EU we will end up in a great depression.

He does admit this there is a massive democratic deficit in the EU but that actually we should turn our anger and desire to stick two fingers up at authority by leaving into a cross European movement to demand a true democratic European Union.

He mentions some easy things that could happen which wouldn't require any treaty changes.

He says all EU Council of Minister meetings should be live streamed on TV so that the people know what is being discussed. Also that the EU central bank has to record their minutes that are then published and that all recent TTP discussions are made public.

He also says that the ECB or Bank of England's quantitative easing should be used to grow jobs, invest in green energy, industry, new technologies and to help the people by generating growth rather than just buying up mortgages.

To get to this new democratic state however he admits that the current rulers must first be overthrown. He doesn't call for a revolution but the same kind of ground swell of public opinion that managed to defeat the Soviet Union.

Whether this can be done or not is a big question and a big chance to take if the UK votes to stay within the EU.

What do you think about Yanis and his thoughts on the EU and the forthcoming UK referendum.

Do you agree with him and is the risk worth taking that we can change the democratic nature of the EU?


Monday, 25 April 2016

Left Wing BREXIT Views

Left Wing BREXIT Views

Don't let anyone tell you only right wing UKIP or Tories want to leave the EU.

Here is a collection of left wing politicians who want the UK to leave the European Union.

For example the great Labour figure of old, Tony Benn, discusses at the Oxford Union why we should leave the EU.

 

Here is the always unafraid to speak his mind, left winger, George Galloway detailing his opinion on why we should embrace BREXIT.

He was actually sharing a stage with UKIP leader Nigel Farage and when he came on many right wing supporters left the building in disgust!

 

Surely BREXIT should not be a left or right wing point of view but a logical decision made on facts.

It shouldn't matter if the only thing Nigel Farage and George Galloway agree on is leaving the EU.

Surely if you believe we are better off out of the system then it shouldn't matter who is making the argument.

Just to finish off the left wing BREXIT campaigners, despite the half hearted speech by Jeremy Corbyn the other week about the need to stay in the EU, he has always been in the part of Labour that disagrees with the EU project.

Here is a speech he made about leaving the EU.



So don't think the idea of leaving the EU is just a right wing view it crosses the divide between political parties, race, creed and religion.

People of all sorts want to leave and also to stay.

Are you a left leaning BREXIT voter or do you want to stay in the EU?